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Originally Posted by sendy47
Harvey i use to at least read your posts...but after the above...i just shake my head...that you would take a conversation that EH is expressing and take an extreme such as hitler to compare uprbringing of children...i just continue to shake my head....EH...i hate to think it is useless to reach people and discuss issues such as this but after reading that reply from Harvey....well...i am speechless...i have to believe not all are like this
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What? The title of this thread is "Is Teaching About Hell Cruel?" One of the points in the opening thread was, "Why do we not condemn this despicable notion of a punishing god in the strongest possible terms?"
EH used his extreme case to demonstrate that hell is a cruel teaching, when I see nothing cruel about God punishing a Hitler--which there have been many in the history of humanity (most of whom are not so well known).
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Originally Posted by EH
You deliberately changed the entire meaning of my post, and it does you no credit at all!
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I don't know what you thought of the meaning of this thread was supposed to be about. I thought it was as the title suggested that the teaching of hell is cruel.
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Originally Posted by EH
The fact is, millions upon millions believe that people are deserving of hell NOT because they did bad things, but because they didn't pledge blind allegiance to one view of god or another. Remember Jerry Falwell's "anybody who is not a born-again Christian is a failure as a human being."
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And, btw, that is their prerogative. It's not cruel that they believe and teach what they believe to be true, just like it is not cruel of the atheist to teach people that there is no inherent meaning in life other than what they wish to make up to cope.
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Originally Posted by EH
In fact, I was very careful to point out that -- for many Christians in the U.S. especially -- those who live good lives but don't believe that Jesus Christ is their Saviour are doomed to Hell for all eternity, but that many who commit atrocities (like Hitler's) who DO accept Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour will merit Heaven eventually.
Really, if you're going to answer my questions, I'd prefer you to do that, rather than substitute them with questions of your own and answering those!
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Well, I don't believe we earn our way into heaven by deeds, nor do I believe we earn our way into hell by atrocities. However, I do believe hell is an important teaching of Christianity and one I am not in the least ashamed of.
I sense thought control on this forum sometimes...