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Originally Posted by evangelicalhumanist
Punishing a Hitler, perhaps. But again you omit punishing the decent person who simply hasn't accepted Jesus as personal Lord and Saviour. I've heard that one or two Christians -- with very large churches and TV shows -- still teach that, or has it recently been quietly abandoned and nobody thought to tell me?
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Well, I don't like the major teaching on hell as espounded especially by Evangelical conservatives. It's not the biblical teaching, imo, which thought of hell as reserved for the truly wicked. In any case, I don't think it is good theology to even emphasize hell unless in terms of justice for the truly wicked.
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Originally Posted by EH
I think every lie told to children in order to coerce is cruel. You may think otherwise, in which case I would consider myself glad not to have you as a parent.
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There are many ways to torment a child, and hell can be one of them. Of course, tormenters could use some teachings in science to torment children too (e.g., the earth occassionally is hit by asteroids and might in the near future).
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Originally Posted by EH
Ah, well if you don't earn your way into hell by atrocities, then your persistence in reminding of that God is punishing Hitler seems oddly quaint, doesn't it?
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I don't think it was atrocities that may put Hitler into hell. Rather, it is a mindset to inflict pain and suffering onto others without a repentant heart that puts someone in hell.
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Originally Posted by EH
By thought control, do you mean people expressing opinions with which you disagree?
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No. I mean that when someone voices an opinion that is by no means disrespectful they are not given reasons for their disagreements but rather emotional arguments to coerce change:
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Harvey i use to at least read your posts...but after the above...i just shake my head...that you would take a conversation that EH is expressing and take an extreme such as hitler to compare uprbringing of children...i just continue to shake my head....EH...i hate to think it is useless to reach people and discuss issues such as this but after reading that reply from Harvey....well...i am speechless...i have to believe not all are like this.
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Isn't this what the teaching of hell has mostly become?