musicman...

i like the formula you posted, very well thought out. Not that i agree with it but i like it.

Sometimes a thing can be so evident it's over looked and not considered because it is so evident. Gravity for instance, who would have thought....before Isaac Newton that is.

Let's fiddle with the formula...

"A) Primary Attributes....

Is there anything more primary then awareness?

"B) Secondary Attributes"

Consciousness and mind based on awareness

"C) Relational Attributes."

Consciouse that one is aware. ( movement within awareness, observer and object of observation=time)

Then wwdhow said: "The only thing God had to "work with" was God! The only stuff going into Creating Everything, everywhere, eternally, is God. " Yep.

Kinda like the gravity thing, so immanent it's hard to see, but not impossible to back it up until that primary awareness is exposed in each of us.

It is not an accurate assumption as to what is impossible to cognate does does not exist, from the vantage point of beetlegues ( sp? ) a giant star, earth is not cognitivable, how much less the tiny creatures who scurry on it's surface? More down to earth....only recently has it been discovered elephants communicate long distances with each other at such a low frequencey it wasn't even suspected. Discoverd by accident if memory serves. And how much logic is there in the observable behavior of some sub atomic particals?

But it makes no difference, to believe or not believe there's a divinity, other then if one has a drive to understand the basic nature of being. Frankly m'dear, i don't give a dam if you're ( impersonal all inclusive 'you') an atheist or not, that which is called 'god' doesn't care either.