Revelation

Lightkeeper · #1 (**permalink**) 25th February 2006, 06:46 PM

Chapter 1

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[1] The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants what must soon take place; and he made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,
[2] who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw.
[3] Blessed is he who reads aloud the words of the prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written therein; for the time is near.
[4]
John to the seven churches that are in Asia:

Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne,

[5] and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the first-born of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood

[6] and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
[7] Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, every one who pierced him; and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.
[8]
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

[9]
I John, your brother, who share with you in Jesus the tribulation and the kingdom and the patient endurance, was on the island called Patmos on account of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.

[10] I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet
[11] saying, "Write what you see in a book and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Per'gamum and to Thyati'ra and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to La-odice'a."
[12]
Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands,

[13] and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden girdle round his breast;
[14] his head and his hair were white as white wool, white as snow; his eyes were like a flame of fire,
[15] his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters;
[16] in his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth issued a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength.
[17]
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand upon me, saying, "Fear not, I am the first and the last,

[18] and the living one; I died, and behold I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.
[19] Now write what you see, what is and what is to take place hereafter.
[20] As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lampstands, the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

RSV Bible

Paul · #2 (**permalink**) 6th July 2006, 09:21 AM

In Chapter One we are given a grand picture of Jesus Christ as He is now in eternity. Especially emphasized is His role as Great High priest and Lord over the church.

**arthra** · #3 (**permalink**) 29th October 2006, 05:52 PM

This is one of most symbolic and cryptic books you can read outside the Book of Daniel maybe... and it is apocalyptic.

- Art

Madeline · #4 (**permalink**) 30th October 2006, 08:24 PM

Jesus' white hair symbolizes wisdom and eternality and his flaming eyes represents judgment. The double-edged sword represents the Word of God and his bronze like feet represents an altar. If I saw a man like that I would definitely drop to my knees and do whatever he tells me.

Love,
Madeline

**arthra** · #5 (**permalink**) 31st October 2006, 10:22 PM

I always like to look at actual text if possible as I can so John was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day and this is the vision:

"...and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden girdle round his breast;
[14] his head and his hair were white as white wool, white as snow; his eyes were like a flame of fire,
[15] his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters"

So in this experience as described in Revelation we have "...one like the son of man" ... Is it by necessity Jesus or one like Him? I agree the words are symbolic though.

- Art

Madeline · #6 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2006, 04:09 AM

The Son of man is a messianic title from Daniel 7:13, and is Jesus' favorite designation for Himself.

Revelation 1:18 - I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Christ is the living God, so Christ is he that liveth. He also became dead when he humbled himself to die on the cross (cf. Phil. 2:6-8), but then rose to live forevermore. So it refers to Jesus.

Love,
Madeline

**arthra** · #7 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2006, 04:32 PM

Well what interests me is that the verse in question

"...and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden girdle round his breast.."

like [3664] homoios
unto the Son [5207] huios
of man, [444] anthropos

implies the Person resembles or is like the son of man. If it was meant to say the Son of man as Jesus it wouldn't need the "homoios"...

- Art

statrei · #8 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Madeline

Jesus' white hair symbolizes wisdom and eternality and his flaming eyes represents judgment. The double-edged sword represents the Word of God and his bronze like feet represents an altar.

And you know that because . . .

Madeline · #9 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2006, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arthra

Well what interests me is that the verse in question

"...and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden girdle round his breast.."

like [3664] homoios
unto the Son [5207] huios
of man, [444] anthropos

implies the Person resembles or is like the son of man. If it was meant to say the Son of man as Jesus it wouldn't need the "homoios"...

- Art

Like unto the Son of man is better rendered as, 'like unto a son of man', i.e., resembling a man, being in human form or a human being. There is no article in the Greek so the writer is saying that the person resembled him in form. He doesn't begin by stating that it is Jesus because the man he saw was in a vision.

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Originally Posted by statrei

And you know that because . . .

You caught me!

Just taking a guess!

Love,
Madeline

**arthra** · #10 (**permalink**) 2nd November 2006, 11:39 PM

Madeline wrote:

Like unto the Son of man is better rendered as, 'like unto a son of man', i.e., resembling a man, being in human form or a human being. There is no article in the Greek so the writer is saying that the person resembled him in form. He doesn't begin by stating that it is Jesus because the man he saw was in a vision.

My reply:

Good response...

- Art

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