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Old 1st June 2007, 10:07 PM
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The Bible and Truth

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How can you convince someone that the Bible is true?

I saw this question today. What do you think? Is it said anywhere in the Bible that the Bible is the only truth?
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Old 2nd June 2007, 01:06 AM
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Is it said anywhere in the Bible that the Bible is the only truth?

Not really, though I am sure you will get a few quotes from John, such as "I am the Way, the Truth and the Light, no one comes to the Father but by me."

The interpretation is up for debate, but the usual arguments are strictly theological, not Biblically literals.

Should be interesting to see the can of worms you have opened...
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Old 2nd June 2007, 06:16 AM
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I can't think of anyplace in the bible that says it is the only way. I have only heard of that from some pretty zealous Christians (namely my mother LOL)
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I saw this question today. What do you think? Is it said anywhere in the Bible that the Bible is the only truth?

No, in fact I think it is Jesus who says that those that are not against us is for us. I think he recognized there were many paths to truth.

Mr 9:40
For he that is not against us is on our part.

Lu 9:50
And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

Although Jesus does differentiate between teachings of the flesh and teachings of the spirit, IMO, Jesus encourages to reconcile all these spiritual teachings together.

2Co 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
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To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Of course an open minded approach does not hold hostage most congregations, whose minister has worked very hard to attain those who are contributing to the financial base... so most will say the Bible is the only way... and some will even go so far to say their denomination is the only way! However, I can't find any Biblical support for that...
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Cross I don't think its important,

to convince anyone that the Bible is the true word of God. Actually I saw a verse in the Bible once, which says that there isn't a book that could hold all of the things men have been inspired by God to write down. So really the Bible couldn't be the word of God on its own anyway.

Besides we are not the convincers of nothing. God is the one who convinces them of things they need to know. We are just to drop the seed that gets the whole prosess going. Sometimes we might be able to water it and keep the weeds from gettin' it, then again we may not even be able to water and protect it from the weeds and so it is left alone to survive on its own. God is the one who decides like it or not. Facts are still facts weather or not we agree or deny them.
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I'm not sure why you'd want to

This is something that has always been a problem for me. Why would anyone wan't to prove that what they believe is true...either the Truth of your teachings and your Path is evident, or there is no Truth in it.

Embody your beliefs, live them...if that does not speak for you, then no argument in words will ever sway a single person to your belief.

Because, in the end, belief isn't in the Reason -- where words and argument hold sway -- but in the Heart.
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I thought the topic was if the Bible was the ONLY truth.

I agree with the others, on if it is true or not. If how an individual interprets it, it makes sense... then it makes sense to them. It is true.

IMO, there are so many layers upon layers, and these interpretations of the metaphors, allegories, and parables are part of the process of inner transformation, which can be unique to the individual. I think, when comparing the KJV with the manuscript from which it has been taken... there are a LOT of translation errors. However, I find the manuscript from which it has been translated, very rich in spiritual teachings.
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I also feel that the bible is filled with spiritual teachings. However, I also feel that it was written and rewritten by men with objectives. Therefore, there are untruths mixed with the truths and hard to discern.

I believe God grants anyone He chooses the correctness of thought and brings anyone He chooses close to Him, by any means He sees fit; as everyone is an individual, the same road isn't the same for everyone. A path that is hard for one may be easy to another and God knows these things and leads who He wishes along the path that He knows will be most beneficial to that person.

This is only my opinion.
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Is it said anywhere in the Bible that the Bible is the only truth?
Youll never find the words "The Bible is the only truth," or any phrase of likeness to it in the bible because the bible didnt "exist" at the time of when the scriptures were written. Most scriptures were either written independent of each other, or copied and revised. It was not written with the intent of being one cohesive book.

Whenever there is reference saying, for example in Revelations, "Do not add to this book," it meant do not add to the book of revelations. It pertained to the book that it was written in and not the bible as a whole.
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Youll never find the words "The Bible is the only truth," or any phrase of likeness to it in the bible because the bible didnt "exist" at the time of when the scriptures were written. Most scriptures were either written independent of each other, or copied and revised. It was not written with the intent of being one cohesive book.

Whenever there is reference saying, for example in Revelations, "Do not add to this book," it meant do not add to the book of revelations. It pertained to the book that it was written in and not the bible as a whole.


Nice, I didn't know that. Thanks
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