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Old 9th August 2007, 07:49 PM
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Cross 50,000 Errors in the Bible

See the "TIMES" Magazine December 30th, 1974, article "How true is the Bible?" And also see "50,000 Errors in the Bible?" a reproduction from the Christian Magazine "AWAKE!" September 8, 1957.
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Not that it matters but isn't Awake a publication of the Jehovah Witness and not Christian?
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The Bible has many mistakes in it, and much is covered up from early times and the writers, of course the cover up was ordered by the party of the day, the christian religion and many writings were destroyed and rewritten so the general public could not see the truth.
It is a sad fact that the truth did not come out and rewriting it from greek into latin many of the words were interpreted wrong, even the pope's of the day had decrees to eliminate paragraphs and reword them<shame>.
It seems even today there are so many versions of the Bible , what does one expect is the truely written Bible, one will never know.
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From a linguistic perspective...

True transfer of the meaning and intent of the Bible is humanly impossible.

I try to explain how glossing (translating) works, but most people just aren't familiar with language to follow it. Language is separated into 'families' that share similar linguistic features. English is a Germanic language which is in the PIE (Proto-Indo-European) family. The original languages of the Bible were Greek and Hebrew. For simplicity, let's analyze only the NT.

Jesus and his disciples alegedly spoke Aramaic, a language in the Afro-Asiatic family of languages. That Aramaic was translated into Greek which is in the Hellenic branch of the PIE family. As far as decent glosses go, that cross-family translation was incomplete at best. But the difficulties don't stop there.

From Greek, the text was translated to Latin (the Italic branch of PIE), from Latin to German (Germanic branch) and eventually to English. The only decent gloss would have occurred between German and English because they, at least, are in the same branch of the PIE family. By that time, however, the translation was already so convoluted and warped that accuracy was no longer an option.

The KJV of the Bible is said to have been translated from older, more original Hebrew and Greek texts. Same problem exists with glosses, however, because the Hebrew to English transfer was a major language jump and the Greek to English was a bit of a stretch as well.

Then we have to factor in prevailing social climates, political climates, and personal whims of individual translators.

Is the Bible authoritatively authentic?

Probably not, at least from a linguistic perspective.
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Not that it matters but isn't Awake a publication of the Jehovah Witness and not Christian?



.... aren't Jehovah's Witnesses Christian...???


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See the "TIMES" Magazine December 30th, 1974, article "How true is the Bible?" And also see "50,000 Errors in the Bible?" a reproduction from the Christian Magazine "AWAKE!" September 8, 1957.

In his book "An Introduction To the Bible", the Anglican theologian William Barclay covers that quite well, and he apologizes not for the errors found within. It's one reason why he warns against believing in biblical literalism. For those who believe in biblical inerrancy, these errors pose quite a problem-- can't God spell?

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As a note, not all the errors are spelling errors.
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While this may be true...

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See the "TIMES" Magazine December 30th, 1974, article "How true is the Bible?" And also see "50,000 Errors in the Bible?" a reproduction from the Christian Magazine "AWAKE!" September 8, 1957.


... one has to point out that neither of these articles would qualify as "scholarly", and neither is exactly current. Even as popular sources, they represent currents of thought that are more than a generation out of date.

And, were it so, then so what?
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My daughter and son-inlaw are Jehovah Witness and they do not consider themselves Christian. They believe in the Bible but do not focus on Jesus, there belief system focuses on God who can be called by only the name Jehovah....


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