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Okay, everyone! In paragraphs 7 and 8 starting at the bottom of page 3, it refers to flowers, crystals, and birds as life forms. What do you think he means by this? He mentions an indwelling consciousness in everthing, every life form. It also talks about how most people see only the outer form just as they see only there physical being as their self. Give me your interpretations of these things.

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My interpretation is that Life itself can appear as in many forms. Yet Life itself has no shape, nor form. Can we see beyond the appearance of form?

All "things" appear in consciousness, beyond consciousness we are one...Life.

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What do you think he means by this? He mentions an indwelling consciousness in everthing, every life form. It also talks about how most people see only the outer form just as they see only there physical being as their self. Give me your interpretations of these things.
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I think this means that inside every that exist as we see it in form has life universal consciousness, creative energy and higher self inside it as a creation of the intial source. When we look at something all we see is the physical form but if we really look and UNDERSTAND we know that that energy or force is there. Once we understand the connection and sameness in each thing we are more respectful, appreciative and learn about our selves because the essence in some is the essence in all.

Everything is a life form that has the ability to change or alter its present state through use of that energy.

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Rev. Kathy, when you say everything do you mean that you believe a chair has consciousness? Life? God? Or do you see a difference between that which gives of itself and that which is dead?

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In order for something to exist it needs to have the energy of the original source of all in it to appear into existance... if it didn't we wouldn't see it. It may not have thought but it still has that entity inside it...it does change...so yes..I guess I am saying everything.

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So, with other words you believe that this world and everything we see, is not an illusion, but the manifestation of God?

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I think consciousness is fairly easy to understand in plants, flowers, and trees. There is a consciousness there that is their process; how a tree, plant or flower roots, takes in sustenance, sprouts leaves, branches, drops its fruit or leaves and reseeds if it's a perennial, creates pollen. The consciousness aids them in fulfilling their purpose. They are all energy.

Minerals as a life form is a little tougher to understand. Everything is made up of minerals. Rocks, crystals, diamonds all are made up of atoms and have the same energy any life form has. Most go through a transformation. As I recall rocks go from sand to rocks to sand. Crystals form from high intensity heat, diamonds form from carbon. They have a presence in that they are energy.

I don't know why anyone would question that a bird is a life form. It has a consciousness in that it has a particular purpose, i.e. how it grows from an egg to adult bird, what color its feathers are, what size it is, flights south, mating practices, what and how it eats, They are part of the eco system. They are made of atoms, they are energy. Consciousness aids the bird in fulfilling it's potential and purpose.

In birds, plants, minerals consciousness is the intelligence that runs the process. This is so difficult to put into words.

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No, L.K. I think you did a great job and I can see what you are seeing. I just can't see that anything physical could be considered God. That which is physical is subject to birth and death, is changable and in time and space and nameable. The spirit of the bird is not the physical body of the bird.

What happens to the spirit when the bird dies? Does it die with the body?

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No one has said that anything physical is God. What is being said is that there is a presence (intelligence, consciousness) in the life forms. Tolle is saying and I agree with him that Jesus taught that we have Christ consciousness within us. That does not make us God.

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To Tolle consciousness is synonymous with God. He defines the terms he uses.

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