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Old 12th May 2005, 12:05 AM
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The Nature of self

Apologies, I posted this in hinduism and then realised it belonged here, so I'll have to repeat it.

" Did I exist the past? Did I not exist in the past? What was I in the past? having been what, what did I become in the past? Shall I exist in the future? How shall I be in the future? Having been what, what shall become in the future? Am I now? am I not, now? What am I? How am I? Where did this being come from? Where will this being go?
I have a self, I have no self. I perceive [my] self by means of [my] self. I preceive [my] self by means of no self. This self of mine which speaks and feels, that experiences the consquences of good and bad actions now here and now there, this self is premanent, stable, eternal, unchanging, the same always."

Maijjhima Nikaya 1 8, Early Buddist text.

Are we any wiser, indeed can anyone say that whatever truth they have think they have *uncovered* is nothing other than Maya, and as such, is simply more illusion.


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Oh my.....

Enlightenment is confusing, isn't it?
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Very I am what I am seems to be as close as one might become to the truth of self.

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