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The Article that Lead Me to Catholicism... Great Read.

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WHETHER or not you are Catholic, you may have questions about the Catholic faith. You may have heard challenges to the Catholic Church’s claim to be the interpreter and safeguard of the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Such challenges come from door-to-door missionaries who ask, "Are you saved?", from peer pressure that urges you to ignore the Church’s teachings, from a secular culture that whispers "There is no God."

You can’t deal with these challenges unless you understand the basics of the Catholic faith. This booklet introduces them to you.

In Catholicism you will find answers to life’s most troubling questions: Why am I here? Who made me? What must I believe? How must I act? All these can be answered to your satisfaction, if only you will open yourself to God’s grace, turn to the Church he established, and follow his plan for you (John 7:17).

For the rest of the article go here.

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This is a great booklet and Catholic Answers is awesome! God bless you on your journey to the one true Church that Jesus founded.

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Welcome to this forum Athanasius! I look forward to reading your posts : )
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Athanasius, I am in the process of reading the mentioned article and the first thing that pops out at me is :Jesus said his Church would be "the light of the world." He then noted that "a city set on a hill cannot be hid" (Matt. 5:14).

But I am reading in the KJV Matt.5:14: Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid.

Is the Cathlic bible different from the KJV?
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Athanasius, I am in the process of reading the mentioned article and the first thing that pops out at me is :Jesus said his Church would be "the light of the world." He then noted that "a city set on a hill cannot be hid" (Matt. 5:14).

But I am reading in the KJV Matt.5:14: Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid.

Is the Cathlic bible different from the KJV?

Good question! The Catholic RSV which is what I use pretty much says the same thing as the KJV. All translations pretty much do. Both the RSV Catholic edition and the KJV protestant editions are more literal translations. The Catholic NAB and protestant NIV are dynamic equivalent and not as literal. I prefer literal for study. The major differences with the Catholic and protestant bibles is that the Catholic bible has 7 extra books in the Old Testament.

The word "Church" is not in this passage. The Author hear is paraphrasing. Christ said this to the apostles, and although all of us are part of the church, The apostles in the bible are seen as being the Hierarchical Visible, magisterial(Teaching authority) Church(This is seen in Matt 18:15-20), and the Author was making a theological and mental connection to that in this passage.

I hope that helps.
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Thank you for the explaination. I tried to read a little more, but could not look past the belief of the author's that the Cathlic Church is the only true church. Don't you agree that any church (religion) that claims this to be true is separating itself from what Jesus taught? (If they are not against us, they are for us). It bothered me also that the Author seems to believe only by putting down another religion, to raise his religion. Should we fear what others do? Should we worry or even take thought about what others do? I understand all this to be the opposit of what Jesus' true message was, to love others as he loved us. Do you see what I mean?

How could anyone want to join a church like this after reading this article?

Please don't take this as an attack, I was raised Cathlic and miss some of the traditions even if they no longer serve me. When you started posting, I was happy to see someone bringing Cathlic Religion into this forum...and I still am : )
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Thank you for the explaination. I tried to read a little more, but could not look past the belief of the author's that the Cathlic Church is the only true church. Don't you agree that any church (religion) that claims this to be true is separating itself from what Jesus taught? (If they are not against us, they are for us). It bothered me also that the Author seems to believe only by putting down another religion, to raise his religion. Should we fear what others do? Should we worry or even take thought about what others do? I understand all this to be the opposit of what Jesus' true message was, to love others as he loved us. Do you see what I mean?

How could anyone want to join a church like this after reading this article?

Please don't take this as an attack, I was raised Cathlic and miss some of the traditions even if they no longer serve me. When you started posting, I was happy to see someone bringing Cathlic Religion into this forum...and I still am : )

Thank you for the compliment and God bless you. You ask really good questions. I can understand what you mean I think. As a devout Catholic theology student who left the church(informally and searched) and came back, I can understand both points. However, since I have now been schooled more formally in Theology, Scripture, and Church history, I feel that I would agree the Author. I do not believe he is putting down other religions, as the Catholic church sees much good and truth in other non-Catholic religions as our Catechism teaches, but I think he may be affirming the biblical and historical teaching that Christ has only One Body(the Church) and one faith(Eph 4:3-6) and that one body is seen in its fullness in the Catholic faith which Jesus historically founded on the rock of Peter our first pope . That is not to say that the others faiths are bad or not good. it is not putting down the other faiths, its just affirming the 2000 year old historical teaching that has always been taught.

I hope that helps. if I have been confusing please let me know. God bless you always my friend.

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