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Cross Jesus "Messenger Man or GOD ??"

The Biblical scriptures, both New and Old Testaments, are unreliable sources and cannot, therefore, be used as an authentic means of knowing the truth about the man called Jesus Christ or about his mission and message. However, a close examination of these scriptures in the light of Qur’aanic verses will reveal some of the truths about Jesus that have survived in the Bible

A Messenger



Matthew 21:11, the people of his time are recorded as referring to Jesus as a prophet: “And the crowds said, ‘This is the prophet Jesus of Nazareth of Galilee.’ ”

Mark, 6:4, it is stated that Jesus referred to himself as a prophet: “And Jesus said to them, ‘A prophet is not without honour, except in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.’ ” In the following verses, Jesus is referred to as having been sent as a messenger is sent

Matthew 10:40, Jesus was purported to have said: “He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me

John 17:3, Jesus is also quoted as saying: “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent

A Man

al-Maa’idah, (5): 75, God points out that Jesus ate food, which is a human act, obviously not befitting to God.


Matthew 19:17, Jesus responded to one who addressed him as “O good master”, saying: “Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God.” If he rejected being called “good”,[2] and stated that only God is truly good, he clearly implies that he is not God


John 14:28, Jesus was saying: “The Father is greater than I.” By stating that the “Father” is greater than himself, Jesus distinguishes himself from God.

John 20:17, Jesus told Mary Magdalene to tell his followers: “I ascend unto my Father and your Father; and to my God and your God.”

1st Timothy, 2:5, Paul writes: “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”

QUR'ANIC VIEW POINT


The Qur‘aan confirms the Biblical story of Jesus’ virgin birth. However, in the Qur‘aanic account of Jesus’ birth, Mary was an unmarried maiden whose life was dedicated to the worship of God by her mother. While she was worshipping in a place of religious seclusion, angels came and informed her of her impending pregnancy.

“When the angels said: ‘O Mary, indeed Allaah gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary. He will be honored in this world and the next and will be of those close to Allaah.’ ” Qur’aan, (3):45

“She said: ‘O my Lord, how can I have a son when no man has touched me?’ He said: ‘Even so—Allaah creates what He wishes. When He decrees something, He only has to say to it: “Be!” and it is.’ ” Qur’aan, (3):47
However, the Qur’aan clarifies that Jesus’ virgin birth did not change the state of his humanity. His creation was like the creation of Aadam, who had neither father nor mother.

“Surely, the example of Jesus, in Allaah’s sight, is like that of Aadam. He created him from dust and said: ‘Be!’ and he was.” Qur’aan, (3):59
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I find it interesting that the Quran is the only "authoritive" source. What about other writers of that era? What did they say? The Quran was published when...600 years after Christ. How can we be certain that the Quran is accurate?

Granted the Bible may have an error or two. God will preserve His word in the form he desires.

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"I have a book!"

"Oh, yeah? Well, I have a book too, and it's more true than yours!"

"Is not!"

"Is too!"

"Who says?"

"Mohammed wrote my book, and he said it was true. Why would he lie?"

"God inspired my book, and the people He inspired all said it was true. Why would they lie?"

"Your book has mistakes. Let me point them out..."

"Your book has mistakes. Here's where they are..."

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I know you're both right. Like the saying, "he said/she said". Which is right? I believe God knows and someday we'll know too. Until then there's no since fighting about it.

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I think Jesus was the "önly begotten God"
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Tinity...!!!!!!!!!!!!(1+1+1=1???)

What is trinity............????????????
Can any one answer me????????
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Trinity isn't found in the Holy bible. It's a doctrine to explain the Godhead in Christianity. With God (YHWH) the Father, Jesus Christ the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit as Comforter/Counselor. All three are equally God and all three are manifestations if you will of the whole. So when a Christian speaks to God, they are speaking to all three. It can be confusing, but it's something most Christians take on faith.
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Authenticity of the Qur'an

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Glory be to God. The Qur'an is a miraculous revelation, authenticated by the truth it contains, and by God's will to preserve its message.

The Qur'an describes itself as a word that stands in this world and in the hereafter. The Qur'an says it is trustworthy over the Bible.

The Qur'an challenges anyone who doesn't believe in it to find an error in it. If you find an error, then you know its not from God.

Glory be to God

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With the greatest of respect to all


You will not find God/Allah/Divine/Source/IS etc etc etc in a book but in your hearts


God is Love and he dwells within each of us

When we care to look within upon the truth he set there for eternity
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