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Old 17th September 2007, 01:03 AM
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Knowledge VS Intelligence

What do you think is the difference between someone that is knowledgable and someone that is intelligent? Or is there a difference?
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Both knowledge and intelligence are relative words which makes your question quite difficult

We have access to head knowledge, emotional knowledge, and bodily knowledge. They are all relative in quality. Head knowledge can be anything from conscious knowledge to conditioned mindless preconception. Emotional knowledge can be either the result of positive or negative emotions. Bodily knowledge can reflect sensitivity for example to color.

In ancient times an intelligent man was considered one in which the heart, head, and body had a balance of knowledge. Intelligence was the result of this blend of the quality of the sources of knowledge for us. In these times knowledge, and intelligence are normally only considered aspects of head knowledge so in reality one who is respected as intelligent can be an objective dunce in the context of the more accurate definition of intelligence known before.
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I guess I was asking myself is knowledge maybe something we enquire and intelligence something we are born with. There are very educated people, but are they nessacary intellegent also? Or could they still be without intelligence.

Is intelligence something we are born with or something we can enquire?
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I guess I was asking myself is knowledge maybe something we enquire and intelligence something we are born with. There are very educated people, but are they nessacary intellegent also? Or could they still be without intelligence.

Is intellegence something we are born with or somehting we can enquire?

I would agree with Nick that there are different kinds of intelligence. My cousin, for example had his PhD in Nuclear Physics before the age of 21, while his sister never graduated from college but was talented musically and became a jazz singer. I have a musican friend that is a literal genius when it comes to music, but the rest of his life is a mess! My inclination is to think that we have certain lessons/gifts in each lifetime. (Sometime even those with severe mental or physical handicaps change the world for the better).
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I think knowledge is something that is accumulated over time. Like books on a shelf.

Intelligence is the ability to figure things out and to accumulate knowledge. Intelligence is like a muscle and can be built up or left flabby over time. Like muscles, some people are born with a greater capacity for intelligence then others, but it is still something that needs to be worked at.

Wisdom is the ability to combine knowledge with intelligence to find the proper solution to a problem.
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I agree with Aaron on this, but i'd like to add that knowledge without intelligence is useless.


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If you have a few minutes to spare, take a look at these statistics. (My parents sent me this link - it blows their mind to realize how much technology has changed our world.
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I know Angeleyes. This is one of the reasons I thank the powers that be for my path. It emphasises the necessity and the means to acquire a human perspective during the onslaught of all this information,
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Thanks for the link, Nick. Boy, that was one long Chapter!

Yes, ACIM talks about the "illusion" of the world. Infact it speaks of the physical world as a projection of the mind which believes in separation. If God is One and His Creation (Son) is a part of Him and shares that Oneness, then how can we truly be separate from Him or each other except in a state of delusion? If it were possible for us to be separate from the ALL, it would mean that a part of God split off and is now in opposition to Itself. That may be what we believe, but it does not make it true. Infact, the pain of doing this makes us realize, sooner or later, that there "must be a better way." ACIM reassures us that what we think we have done (perceive) is real only in our dreaming state from which we must awaken.
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Fantasy is a distorted form of vision. Fantasies of any kind are distortions, because they always involve twisting perception into unreality. Actions that stem from distortions are literally the reactions of those who know not what they do...... But although you can perceive false associations, you can never make them real except to yourself. You believe in what you make.....

You do not have to continue to believe in what is not true unless you choose to do so. All that can literally disappear in the twinkling of an eye because it is merely a misperception. What is seen in dreams seems to be very real. Yet the Bible says that a deep sleep fell upon Adam, and nowhere is there reference to his waking up. The world has not yet experienced any comprehensive reawakening or rebirth. Such a rebirth is impossible as long as you continue to project or miscreate. It still remains within you, however, to extend as God extended His Spirit to you. In reality this is your only choice, because your free will was given you for your joy in creating the perfect.

All fear is ultimately reducible to the basic misperception that you have the ability to usurp the power of God. Of course you neither can nor have been able to do this. Here is the real basis for your escape from fear. The escape is brought about by your accpetance of the Atonment, which enables you to realize that your errors never really occured. Only after the deep sleep fell upon Adam could he experience nightmares. If a light is suddenly turned on while someone is dreaming a fearful dream, he may initially interpret the light itself as part of his dream and be afraid of it. However, when he awakens, the light is correctly perceived as the release from the dream, which is no longer accorded reality. This release does not depend on illusions. The knowledge that illuminates not only sets you free, but also shows you clearly that you are free.
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Did you mean this last post for this thread or for the Ken Wilber book thread? I don't believe I posted a link on this thread but perhaps you are referring to Chapter One of "A Sense of the Cosmos" If you are then perhaps I can become a bit more understandable and explain this separation you refer to in relation to man as a microcosmos or mini universe as related to the Great Universe.

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