InterfaithForums

Welcome to the InterfaithForums forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

Arcade Support Us FAQ Calendar vBRadio Quiz
Go Back   InterfaithForums > Debate Forum > General Debate
Home Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

General Debate Debate any subject.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 15th October 2007, 10:28 AM
The_Seeker
 

Posts: n/a
Coins: 0
Bank: 0
Total Coins: 0
Donate
Why Do We Believe?

Does believing in something give us hope? What happens if we do not believe in anything does that make us less of a person?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 15th October 2007, 12:53 PM
aged hippy's Avatar
Alchemist
 

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wandering in a pathless land
Posts: 1,177
Coins: 169,389.04
Bank: 7,646.06
Total Coins: 177,035.10
Donate
Karma:516
aged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of light


"Does believing in something give us hope?" .... some religions teach that we are somehow 'fallen', and debased, and that we are the lowest of the low, but that if and only if we believe in their particular prophet or god we can become elevated in some way, this seems to me to be a case of blatant psychological blackmail, but yes, it would give one hope if one followed a religion which taught these beliefs.

"What happens if we do not believe in anything does that make us less of a person?" .... in my opinion - no, most certainly not. I think that we are all equal as humans, it's just that we have differing values, and to claim that if someone doesn't "believe in anything" then they are somehow less than someone who does believe seems to be falling into the trap of judging others on one's own (imagined) merit.


p.s.
Hello and Welcome, by the way.


Peace, Love, & Light
__________________
"An object is perceived, or not perceived, according as the mind is, or is not, tinged with the colour of the object. "
Patanjali - Sutra 4:17

Last edited by aged hippy : 15th October 2007 at 12:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 15th October 2007, 01:35 PM
metis's Avatar
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Detroit & Marquette areas, Michigan
Posts: 2,163
Coins: 175,017.64
Bank: 0.00
Total Coins: 175,017.64
Donate
Karma:314
metis is a jewel in the roughmetis is a jewel in the roughmetis is a jewel in the roughmetis is a jewel in the rough


Judaism

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Seeker
Does believing in something give us hope? What happens if we do not believe in anything does that make us less of a person?

I think aged hippy hit it on the head. "Hope" and being "less of a person" is something that we can control within ourselves.

Shalom,
Vern
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 15th October 2007, 01:39 PM
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 3,028
Coins: 14,943,885.09
Bank: 0.00
Total Coins: 14,943,885.09
Donate
Karma:296
vivamis123 is a jewel in the roughvivamis123 is a jewel in the roughvivamis123 is a jewel in the rough



I do believe that believing in something can give one hope for a better life. If however the God one believes in is fear based, than believing in a God can actually hold one back from experiencing a better life that is hoped for.
__________________
May your awareness be perfection
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 15th October 2007, 02:10 PM
aged hippy's Avatar
Alchemist
 

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wandering in a pathless land
Posts: 1,177
Coins: 169,389.04
Bank: 7,646.06
Total Coins: 177,035.10
Donate
Karma:516
aged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of lightaged hippy is a glorious beacon of light


I hate to say it, Vivamis.... but i disagree with you when you say: "If however the God one believes in is fear based, than believing in a God can actually hold one back from experiencing a better life that is hoped for"

.... i think that it would hold one back from experiencing the better life that one would have experienced - if one hadn't spent one's life fearing the judgement of the god.



Peace, Love, & Light
__________________
"An object is perceived, or not perceived, according as the mind is, or is not, tinged with the colour of the object. "
Patanjali - Sutra 4:17
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 15th October 2007, 02:37 PM
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 3,028
Coins: 14,943,885.09
Bank: 0.00
Total Coins: 14,943,885.09
Donate
Karma:296
vivamis123 is a jewel in the roughvivamis123 is a jewel in the roughvivamis123 is a jewel in the rough



Yes, Aged Hippy.....That is what I meant to say : ) Early Monday Morning LOL
__________________
May your awareness be perfection
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 16th October 2007, 02:26 AM
Junior Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18
Coins: 10,842.58
Bank: 0.00
Total Coins: 10,842.58
Donate
Karma:10
justifyothers is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Seeker
Does believing in something give us hope?

Absolutely! I believe in God and an afterlife. Don't underestimate the power of HOPE. Not only does it help my perspective in the here & now, but it allows me to look forward to more. This greatly improves the quality of my life.




Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Seeker
What happens if we do not believe in anything does that make us less of a person?

Absolutely not!! It just may or may not make you feel lost or empty at times - being 'less of a person' is something you can only allow yourself to be by not doing the best you can with what you have to work with. (IMO)
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 16th October 2007, 05:15 AM
angeleyes's Avatar
Moderator
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern US
Posts: 1,575
Coins: 177,000.95
Bank: 56,811.34
Total Coins: 233,812.29
Donate
Karma:535
angeleyes is a glorious beacon of lightangeleyes is a glorious beacon of lightangeleyes is a glorious beacon of lightangeleyes is a glorious beacon of lightangeleyes is a glorious beacon of lightangeleyes is a glorious beacon of light



Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Seeker
Does believing in something give us hope? What happens if we do not believe in anything does that make us less of a person?

Yes, I think it gives us hope. I think it's comforting knowing that we're not alone and that we are loved by something greater than ourselves. Even better is believing that everything happens for a reason and it's all going to work out in the "end."

I don't think anyone should be looked down on because of what they believe or don't believe. Everyone is doing the best they can given their view of the world.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 16th October 2007, 10:15 PM
The_Seeker
 

Posts: n/a
Coins: 0
Bank: 0
Total Coins: 0
Donate
Quote:
Originally Posted by aged hippy
"Does believing in something give us hope?" .... some religions teach that we are somehow 'fallen', and debased, and that we are the lowest of the low, but that if and only if we believe in their particular prophet or god we can become elevated in some way, this seems to me to be a case of blatant psychological blackmail, but yes, it would give one hope if one followed a religion which taught these beliefs.

"What happens if we do not believe in anything does that make us less of a person?" .... in my opinion - no, most certainly not. I think that we are all equal as humans, it's just that we have differing values, and to claim that if someone doesn't "believe in anything" then they are somehow less than someone who does believe seems to be falling into the trap of judging others on one's own (imagined) merit.


p.s.
Hello and Welcome, by the way.


Peace, Love, & Light

Hi and thanks for the advice! why does it always come back to judging others lol
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 16th October 2007, 10:31 PM
The_Seeker
 

Posts: n/a
Coins: 0
Bank: 0
Total Coins: 0
Donate
Quote:
Originally Posted by justifyothers
Absolutely! I believe in God and an afterlife. Don't underestimate the power of HOPE. Not only does it help my perspective in the here & now, but it allows me to look forward to more. This greatly improves the quality of my life.


I believe that having hope help builds self confidence that we need to get thru life. Hope gives us strength as well.

Quote:
Absolutely not!! It just may or may not make you feel lost or empty at times - being 'less of a person' is something you can only allow yourself to be by not doing the best you can with what you have to work with. (IMO)

your right i guess that is why we dream or have faith and hope cause without all that we probably would feel lost finding the strength alone is hard enough at times so guess having hope is what its all about hey?

Last edited by The_Seeker : 16th October 2007 at 10:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Coins Per Thread View: 1.00
Coins Per Thread: 15.00
Coins Per Reply: 5.00




All times are GMT. The time now is 01:27 AM.


Copyright ©, 2005-2008 Interfaithforums.com. All Rights Reserved

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0