The Great Bikini Controversy

Nick_A · #1 (**permalink**) 21st October 2007, 02:25 AM

As most know by now I've been on the side of morality regarding the Armenian genocide controversy.

However, in respect to the Great Bikini controversy I've become more liberal minded and definitely SEE the advantage of the political perspective.

Well as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words so for those unfamiliar with the bikini controversy:

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/5188

This of course puts Israel's defense forces in a new light and favorable for political diplomacy. Even I would stop arguing from such motivation and support the troops. Why not open a bottle of wine and talk peace.

But the moral side is not too happy about this peace attempt.

Quote:

"It's unfortunate that the Israeli consulate chose to emphasize Israel's relevance with a portrait of a half-naked woman, instead of with one of women of substance and accomplishments," adds MK Zahava Gal-On.

I can't win. When I'm moral, others are political and when I see the political justification, others become moral. Can't win.

Frankly from this man's perspective, she looks quite accomplished and definitely has substance. Why can't the world celebrate its assets?

Ah, what can one do. Why can't we all get along?

wwwdlhow27 · #2 (**permalink**) 21st October 2007, 05:18 PM

Hubba, hubba,
What was the question?

Nick_A · #3 (**permalink**) 21st October 2007, 05:41 PM

The question wwwd is contained in this excerpt:

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Back in Jerusalem, female members of Israel's Knesset are furious. "This pornographic campaign sponsored by the Foreign and Tourism Ministries is an outrage," said MK Colette Avital, who was formerly Israel's consul-general to New York. "It's unfortunate that the Israeli consulate chose to emphasize Israel's relevance with a portrait of a half-naked woman, instead of with one of women of substance and accomplishments," adds MK Zahava Gal-On.
The consulate remains unapologetic. They see the country's image slipping among the crucial demographic of New York men aged 18 to 38, explains David Saranga, consul for media and public affairs. "So we thought we'd approach them with an image they'd find appealing," he says.

Do you side with the consulate or with MK Zahava Gal-On after considering the entire body of evidence?

wwwdlhow27 · #4 (**permalink**) 21st October 2007, 05:56 PM

The entire body is certainly worth further consideraton, however I think the Consulates PR Firm should have consulted Knesset before releasing this Add campaign.

I also think everyone should consider which moral standard they're trying to convey. Immorality can be seen in both wearing a bikini and killing in the name of God.

Nick_A · #5 (**permalink**) 21st October 2007, 06:06 PM

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I also think everyone should consider which moral standard they're trying to convey. Immorality can be seen in both wearing a bikini and killing in the name of God.

Good point Don. I was still considering the entire body of evidence and had not considered it.

I wonder if your point was brought up at the celebration that night.

**Rev. Kelly** · #6 (**permalink**) 21st October 2007, 06:29 PM

Here is one woman's point of view (mine). The model is certianly beautiful. If a woman chooses to earn her living in this manner and show off her body, good for her. She is certainly more confident than I am. I don't think that it has anything to do with morality, morality is about how you treat others, IMO. So, if a woman or man wants to take his clothes off and show off her/his assest, let him. I am not above looking.

vivamis123 · #7 (**permalink**) 22nd October 2007, 02:44 PM

I can (again) see both sides of this story. What however bothers me a little is that this came from the Israeli consulate. You would think that the Isreali consulate represents the "people". If the "people" do not want to be represented in this form, I feel they have a right to protest.

Nick_A · #8 (**permalink**) 22nd October 2007, 05:14 PM

Viv, you mention the interests ot the "people."

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"It's unfortunate that the Israeli consulate chose to emphasize Israel's relevance with a portrait of a half-naked woman, instead of with one of women of substance and accomplishments," adds MK Zahava Gal-On.

Which of these contrasting depictions of ideal women attracting tourism best represents the interests of the "People?"

vivamis123 · #9 (**permalink**) 22nd October 2007, 06:32 PM

Maybe a women of substance and accomplishments!?! I am probably not the right person to answer that question, since I am not Israeli.

Nick_A · #10 (**permalink**) 22nd October 2007, 07:46 PM

Viv, viv, Viv, Now you've gone and done it. You've gone so far as to insult the "Great Beast" himself. I just received a copy of a form letter from one of his personal beasties lamenting his experience. It reads"

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As everyone knows, I, the noble "Great Beast" himself represent the collective prejudices and passions of all the 'people" All of my life's efforts have been devoted to just this cause. I have defied all these efforts to cause strife by denying these passions and opposing the laws of nature that define and perpetuate the established cycles of all life.

Now these members of the consulate follow in the great tradition of the people and look at the condemnation they receive from this ungrateful.minority.

As you know in the bible of the "Great Beast," defining the means for recognizing the truth is covered in the third axiom which reads: "Follow the Money."

This technique quickly reveals that the great majority of the money spent on advertising caters to the need of developing the women furthered by the consulate. The "People" through their purchasing power have dictated their ideal and I, the "Great beast" have made the necessary efforts to develop and sustain the will of the people.

Now this woman Vivamis123 comes along and defines the "people" by those in Israel, encouraging division, and without regard to the fact that we are all one.

Even now it is believed in Israel that more men are volunteering for the rear guard because of this recognition of the obvious.

Where did I go wrong? I've tried so hard to further the will of the people by furthering its prejudice and passions but still some object.

At least it is not all bad. After all that nuisance Simone Weil and her advice to "annoy the Great Beast" was only heard by a few and she only lived 34 years. It would have been a real insult to the people if she had lived to 74.

When will they all realize that we are all one in my body; the body of the "Great beast." We have to educate those that object and welcome them into the fold. If the people want T and A, we must work together to provide quality T and A. The consulate. respects the majority and the revealed will of the people. So should we All

Best wishes

GB

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