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Old 27th November 2007, 10:11 PM
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I知 sure at some point that the Pagans fought back & more then likely did attack the Christians who had been attacking them first. I知 sure you might do the same if they had attacked your people first.

That's such a massive misreading of the history of the Viking Age that it truly elludes description.


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There are people out there who do not believe that Catholics are even Christians I知 not sure why myself.
The problem with these examples is that none of them still show Christians being almost completely wiped out by another religion .

Again, a lack of comprehension that I am not going to even attempt to redress here, it would simply require too much bandwidth.

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Old 27th November 2007, 10:22 PM
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[quote=Eolas Pellor]That's such a massive misreading of the history of the Viking Age that it truly elludes description.
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Just because you have read something & then another person did doesnt not mean that they misread it, they just walked away with something different then you did. Kind of like reading the bible no two people always get the same thing from it.
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Some people deny the Holocaust

Some deny the Armenian Genocide.

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... they just walked away with something different then you did.

What nonsense. There are facts and then there are delusions; there is reasonable conjectire and reasoned opiniion and then there is wild speculation and distortion.


You can certainly think anything you want, but that doesn't make it true.

I haven't bothered using the "ignore" list feature before, but I guess there is a first time for evertyhing.
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[quote=Eolas Pellor]


You can certainly think anything you want, but that doesn't make it true.

You said it not me. Ingore me if you wish I'll lose no sleep over it either way. You find me someone from that time period whose still alive & they agree with you then I'll be happy to say that your right & I'm wrong.
Untill then it's all just theory.
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With the coming election in 2008 it seems that some of not most Candidates
are pushing to get back to our roots, meaning back to Christians principles. The problem is that America was not based on Christians values but yet people to this very day just sit there blindly & go with it. With most of our founding father being freemason & deist why do people insist on believing it? Haven稚 they read the U.S. Constitution? It begins, "We the people," and contains no mention of "God" or "Christianity." There are references to "Nature's God but no mention of the Christian God.
Even the pilgrims that come over here were seeking religious freedom. These days people it seems that the majority of people here are Christians or so they claim. So if the majority of people claim to be Christians does that give them to right to make this country into whatever they see fit?

The words, "under God," did not appear in the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954, when Congress, under McCarthyism, added them. So why are they still in it? Is this nation living a lie?

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US was discovered inorder to provide a land to the people to escape religious persecution and as far as I know and understand US is a country which more secular and religious ,this is why we see freedom of expression, belief and action there.

No doubt the Govt and the majority of the population in USA is Christian but even there are several Christians there who are basically secular and some of them have even turned atheists.

The reason why the people adhere and stick to Christianity is because it is a religion of there forefathers and it is by default religion for them.
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US was discovered in order to provide a land to the people to escape religious persecution

No.
All expeditions were done so as to acquire resources, so wealth acquisition was the primary focus.
Yes, a lot of religious groups escaped to the new world as it was a frontier and so less control for a period of time, but this was not the design, just a side effect.
Later the custodial forces became entrenched here and have been running the show ever since.
No, there are no christian nations in North America.
many people are nominal christians, but that is all.
Christian values played some part in the formation of NA, but that is due to such values being the dominant ideology of the times.
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I know some of my ancestors settled in the Carolinas when it was a colony under the British crown before the Revolutionary War.

They were members of a persecuted Protestant sect called the Unitas Fratrum (United Brethren). The main reason at the time was to avoid the draft of the then Holy Roman Empire which was going to war with Prussia in central Europe called the Seven Years War and the Brethren were pacifists.

I'm something of a student of history and enjoying reading about it. Here's a brief reference to the Seven Years War:

"In January 1757 the Holy Roman Empire, led by Maria Theresa of Habsburg, empress of Austria (although her husband Francis I was Holy Roman Emperor), declared war on Prussia, who now found herself surrounded by enemies, with much greater populations and resources."

So I know that there were various groups who were fleeing conditions in Europe and my ancestors were among them... The Brethren had communities in the Carolinas and practised their religion there. Had they remained in Europe they would have been persecuted by one side or another in the conflicts between say the Lutherans and the Catholics and so on.

Coincidentally my wife also had Brethren backgrouind in her ancestry and we discovered what we had in common after we married as Baha'is.

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