It's a bit long but its very good & very interesting I'd like to know what some of you think of it.


ZEITGEIST, The Movie - Official Release - Part 1 of 3


I am not saying that Christians worship the Sun far from it.

This is about is archetypes. There are certain archetypes within the many varying religions all over the planet and this is simply showing the basis for some of these archetypes through astrology. The story presented through astrology is older than any modern religion and the story keeps manifesting itself through cultures with different faces on it. It has been recreated so many times that many have forgotten where it came from. The same basic archetypes are seen throughout ALL religions. Storytelling through archetypes weaves the same basic stories from culture to culure...custom made for those people. The reason it becomes so hard for Christians (and many other religious followers) to accept that their religion is no different in the grand scheme of world religions, is that they are so set in the belief that their story is somehow based in reality and fact and that all others are not.



Anyhow I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

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Hello norwood1026,
and Welcome.

Thank you very much indeed for that link, it's a real thought-provoker.

I have a feeling that you'll soon get to meet Travis Clement-Smith, a member of IFF who just may agree with some of the message of the film.....


Peace, Love, & Light

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Patanjali - Sutra 4:17

I agree

At the core of most religions it appears there is the same story or perhaps better "symbol"


One day we will all concentrate on the core rather than the apple

very interesting...thanks for the link...

Well there's no question in my mind that Christianity was mythologized early in it's history and adapted to pagan religions around it as well as adopting solar motifs. Constantine did this as well and didn't discourage it... He in a sense tried to make the best of both worlds by favoring the solar religion that had been popular in the Empire as well as Christianity.

But to me the Jesus behind the myth is real too...and He is more Semitic and Jewish than Greek and pagan.

- Art

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I've seen it before, I think I actually posted it here before! Here is a thread you might be interested in:

Heretics!

-TC

I saw a book a while back talking about how the parables of Buddha & the teachings of Christ read the same. The only difference was that Buddha was some 400 B.C. I only bring that up because Buddhism is considered a Pagan religion too.

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Hi Art,

I see this argument made frequently, but I don't think it holds much water. Firstly, the earliest writings of Christianity were made by the apostle Paul, and we can date his conversion to be a few years (probably 3 years) after Jesus's death. In his letter to the Corinthians he specifically stated what was told to him:

"I delivered to you first of all that which I also received:

That Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures

That he was buried

That he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

That he was seen of Cephas

Then by the Twelve

Then he was seen by over five hundred brothers at once. . .

Then he was seen of James

Then all of the apostles"

Since this was passed on to Paul, this suggests an early tradition of the Church--probably at his conversion a few years after Jesus's death.

There were Pagan Gods who dided & was reborn & seen also it just happanded before Christ.

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I worship the old Gods because my heart tells me too not because I am told too.

Let's put Horus back into Xmas.