Equality For All

[Lightkeeper]

Originally Posted by vivamis123

I am against rules and regulations, but I am for equality for all.

How do we have equality for all without rules and regulations?

[vivamis123]

In the concept of equality there are no rules and regulations. Who would enforce them and for what need? Everyone is equal.

[evangelicalhumanist]

Originally Posted by vivamis123

In the concept of equality there are no rules and regulations. Who would enforce them and for what need? Everyone is equal.

Well, everyone may hope to have equality of opportunity, but I would suggest that everyone is not equally endowed, physically, intellectually, or in their life circumstances. Some are stronger, better able to take what they wish from weaker. Some inherit daddy's millions, some come into life with nothing. Luck is hardly socialist in its ability to provide equal outcomes for all!

Man is a complex creature, full of conflicting needs and unequal abilities. Social rules, norms, customs etc. serve to try to even the playing field to some extent, but can never do so perfectly.

[Lightkeeper]

Vivamis123 could you give us an example of a community with equality for all? Who works, who doesn't? What happens at street intersections? Who decides what speeds are safe for all? How do we get paid? Who are the doctors and how are they paid? Is there a certain day for picking up the garbage? Would people be smoking in public places? Does everyone have the same amount of money or is there no currency?

[metis]

Sorry to sound so condescending, but in my anthropological studies, I have never seen or read about any society that is equal in all areas, nor do I think it's possible even with a small group. As EH stated, we do not all have the same talents, and people begin to rely on others for help, which automatically makes for a certain amount of inequality. BTW, I've never seen a man breast-feed a baby.

Shalom,
Vern

[Lightkeeper]

Originally Posted by metis

Sorry to sound so condescending, but in my anthropological studies, I have never seen or read about any society that is equal in all areas, nor do I think it's possible even with a small group. As EH stated, we do not all have the same talents, and people begin to rely on others for help, which automatically makes for a certain amount of inequality. BTW, I've never seen a man breast-feed a baby.

Shalom,
Vern

Originally Posted by metis

BTW, I've never seen a man breast-feed a baby.

Why do male mammals have nipples? Could there have been a time the male could activate the mammary glands in case the female died during childbirth?

[metis]

Originally Posted by Lightkeeper

Why do male mammals have nipples? Could there have been a time the male could activate the mammary glands in case the female died during childbirth?

Both males and females have the same general parts, but it's the hormones that eventually begins to separate them more. I know of a couple of male students I had who began to sprout breasts when exposed to too much estrogen as found in non-organic cow's milk, for example. A women's clitoris is essentially a small penis. However, even with different hormones, the male breasts and the female clitoris cannot function in exactly the same way, if you know what I mean. Similar, but not exact.

And, as far as I know, a man's breast cannot secrete milk even with hormone therapy. Unless the baby can survive on sweat?

Shalom,
Vern

[Lightkeeper]

The phenomenon of male lactation in humans has become more common in recent years due to the use of medications that stimulate a man's mammary glands. Though boys and men have nipples, many are unaware that they also have mammary glands. In ordinary circumstances, there is so little mammary tissue that it is unnoticeable; if the male breasts develop visibly, the condition is called gynecomastia. Under the appropriate hormonal stimulus—that nature provides to human females when they become pregnant and give birth—the mammary glands of human males can also produce milk. The volume of milk produced is low relative to that of a lactating female. Male lactation has, in some cases, commenced without hormonal treatments as well.[citation needed] Newborn baby boys (and girls) can occasionally produce milk because of the intense hormones involved in their mother's pregnancy and the hours of childbirth. from Wikipedia

There are several articles on the net about male lactation. Also, don't some male birds feed and care for the young?

[vivamis123]

I see equality as everyone being the same different.