InterfaithForums

Welcome to the InterfaithForums forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

Arcade Support Us FAQ Calendar vBRadio Quiz
Go Back   InterfaithForums > Debate Forum > General Debate
Home Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

General Debate Debate any subject.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #31 (permalink)  
Old Today, 07:20 AM
Schizophretard's Avatar
Supreme Commander
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In the core of Uranus.
Posts: 346
Coins: 17,788.08
Bank: 0.00
Total Coins: 17,788.08
Donate
Karma:179
Schizophretard has a spectacular aura aboutSchizophretard has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by evangelicalhumanist
I'm not sure I see why a "demand" on political leaders is equated to violence. The plain fact of the matter is, individuals doing things on their own (recycling, saving plastic by carrying own bags, using less, etc.) will have some effect. But we are a highly interconnected society, and the corporate world does not respond as individuals, and therefore the solutions to most large societal problems must at some level be political.

Because it sounds like you want the government to solve the problem.
__________________
"I fully comprehended the power of the human mind at the exact moment I came to the realization that I'm totally insane and have no idea what I'm talking about."
Reply With Quote
  #32 (permalink)  
Old Today, 08:02 AM
shaw-n's Avatar
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 447
Coins: 20,224.93
Bank: 0.00
Total Coins: 20,224.93
Donate
Karma:237
shaw-n has a spectacular aura aboutshaw-n has a spectacular aura aboutshaw-n has a spectacular aura about
In the traditional world of history the gov't has been comprised of elites, an aristocracy, more recently a bureaucracy.
These are ideas that are outdated and obsolete.
We will only make progress when we all realize that we are all the gov't.
We are all one.
Then expecting the gov't to do something about it (whatever it may be) requires one to get at it....chop chop.
Reply With Quote
  #33 (permalink)  
Old Today, 04:13 PM
evangelicalhumanist's Avatar
Seeking intelligent life
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 2,632
Coins: 234,485.07
Bank: 5,345,473.54
Total Coins: 5,579,958.61
Donate
Karma:1553
evangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant futureevangelicalhumanist has a brilliant future



Quote:
Originally Posted by Schizophretard
Because it sounds like you want the government to solve the problem.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shaw-n
In the traditional world of history the gov't has been comprised of elites, an aristocracy, more recently a bureaucracy.
These are ideas that are outdated and obsolete.
We will only make progress when we all realize that we are all the gov't.
We are all one.
Nice ideas, that "we" can do things in any kind of coordinated fashion without the bother of a coordinating body. I would ask both of you, though, if you have any examples at all of humans organizing activities on any scale whatsoever without creating some form of "governing body," I would be happy to hear about it.

But my own experience is that when we get into any activity that requires the coordination or people and resources, some form of "government" is created, because otherwise, everybody just does whatever they think is warranted in an uncoordinated fashion, which usually leads to both chaos and many absolutely vital components being completely ignored, while not-so-vital components get far, far too much attention.
__________________
evangelicalhumanist: Greek "eu"=good and "angelos"=messenger. Spreading the good news of Humanism.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Coins Per Thread View: 1.00
Coins Per Thread: 15.00
Coins Per Reply: 5.00




All times are GMT. The time now is 09:00 PM.


Copyright ©, 2005-2008 Interfaithforums.com. All Rights Reserved

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0