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Old 14th July 2008, 07:26 PM
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Old 14th July 2008, 07:38 PM
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this looks to be put out there for anyone to talk on...for me a criminal mind...shows itself when ...the spirit ...soul...being what ever that it is for the individual..when it becomes so broken...or no wait..that is not saying it ...that remains the same...it is when the human experience is so great in pain that the person can no longer trust nor know oneself to know there is healthy out lets to get through life...then what in a healthy brain would look like wrongs and unjust and horrific...now the human looks to these wrongs as possible answers and takes on the vengeful and ugly nature that can be there for anyone if nurtured...and nurturing a criminal mind i think is just like nurturing a healthy one..it is what it is fed...you feed killing callous behavior and soon you will become i imo think what your taking in..or least to some degree and again it depends on a history of the individual..what creates that criminal mind is in each case individual...
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i don't have a criminal mind so i don't know. can only go by the symptoms displayed and make a guess. It's a mind utterly devoted to the needs of what one thinks one is owed to maintaine that image. ( ?????)
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ok chip...that post for me read..your above and in a superior place...you would not know....

I think in life we are all owed the same.....

it is with the measuring ...we start getting in trouble...the labeling starts and then the columns are made and we start placing people in there column of what they deserve or not..and what they think...as i did above..i shared what i heard...not what it necessarily said...

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I would say that perhaps as often as not...that it is not a feeling of owed as much as a feeling of deprived and desperation...

again back to square one...emotional needs not met..and one way or another...they find a way to be met....i stand by mo ..that humans are emotionaly driven....how do you manipulate another......

anyway just found your answer of interest..and wrote the thought of the moment...

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Quite simply, a criminal mind is a mind with thoughts toward socially unacceptable actions. This is completely subjective depending on the society you live in.
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Thanks for pointing that out sendy....let me cite the reason i said what i did... since i can't look into or know the contents of another's mind i can only make a guess as to what may be in a criminal mind. And because knowing my own mind does not exhibit thoughts of taking actions that would result in what would be considered criminal i can only conclude i do not have a criminal mind. It's the old "thought leads to action" thing.

i don't know that deprivation leads to criminal behavior, i don't know that it doesn't.

It does seem to me that excessive 'me-ness' is no respecter of status or privilege in society, and that particulair obsession will seek fullfillment at the expense of anyone within it's scope of intrest. if we look around we can see it displayed from the highest social stratus to the lowest, with varying degrees of harm to other people.

"....i stand by mo ..that humans are emotionaly driven"

i agree with you since i see obsessive self neediness as emotional. But it is a genuine and not a leading question when i ask, is deprivation the primary factor?
Like most of the people i know on these forums, i lived a miserably deprived and abusive childhood and grew up tough enough to eat fence posts for breakfast...but i never deliberatly hurt anyone just because there was oppertunity to do so. i dare say few here would.

Why? What makes the difference between the deprived who would and the deprived who do not? Is there a commonality?

Ahhhh, sitting thinking... maybe i get a glimmer of what you were getting at...but will wait to see what your reply may be. Could be we are actualy talking the same thing, different expressions.
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Thanks for pointing that out sendy....let me cite the reason i said what i did... since i can't look into or know the contents of another's mind i can only make a guess as to what may be in a criminal mind. And because knowing my own mind does not exhibit thoughts of taking actions that would result in what would be considered criminal i can only conclude i do not have a criminal mind. It's the old "thought leads to action" thing.

i don't know that deprivation leads to criminal behavior, i don't know that it doesn't.

It does seem to me that excessive 'me-ness' is no respecter of status or privilege in society, and that particulair obsession will seek fullfillment at the expense of anyone within it's scope of intrest. if we look around we can see it displayed from the highest social stratus to the lowest, with varying degrees of harm to other people.

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your above ..i think goes back to again what i think we think we know...and when we view the upper class or lower class ..if we should drop those labels we could begin to move in a better direction...( i use the same labels when trying to get a point across or share what ever) ...i just reread your above and i guess you did not use labels as such..you spoke in general to know group imparticular but any and all fitting in ...oops......that child or adult for that matter in what appears to have everything and get and want everything and feels or comes across to us as looking to come from a i am owed personality and some will point blank state it..but i think when we look deeper and interview the person and ask all the personal questions we would get to the bottom of the false showing of them self...just from my experience how i look at it.....

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i agree with you since i see obsessive self neediness as emotional. But it is a genuine and not a leading question when i ask, is deprivation the primary factor?
Like most of the people i know on these forums, i lived a miserably deprived and abusive childhood and grew up tough enough to eat fence posts for breakfast...but i never deliberately hurt anyone just because there was oppertunity to do so. i dare say few here would.

Why? What makes the difference between the deprived who would and the deprived who do not? Is there a commonality?

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I would say yes...even if i dont have the answer to what... .....but perhaps it was the company we kept..or even the time alone...something seems to happen in that time alone...sometimes it is way later that i understood that i understood things happened in that time... for me the negative child hood...taught me what not to do..what not to be...what i did not dare wish on another...but there were those who were kind and i could see things happen and grow ...they could work...but again this i feel worked..because it was but appearance for much of what i thought i observed...to understand later in life...it is easy to be kind sometimes..or be on the mark whether behavior or really what ever...then to be in a family life 24/7 and those same folks in life i was sure would have to have a perfect life from a window looking in versus a room in the house...i now would think they had issues and found later they did..just all seems to be part of the process that i do think we can continually improve on...perfection is accepting ourselves as we are...allowing each other to be..and grow in each ones own time...if we all shared in life as we do on this board daily with the same respect of each ones difference then i think that would be a huge advantage to moving forward in a positive way...

then you have what i feel comes from with in..and some of us learned to not fight it..the sooner you understand that the drive with in is correct and can be trusted the sooner the road can be maneuvered easier..not always easy but easier....and so long as your not willing to trust this inner part or what comes through us...you fight tooth and nail..just sure you can find away around what you know.. to be bitten in the butt..and well...knowing this works to ones advantage ...

Ahhhh, sitting thinking... maybe i get a glimmer of what you were getting at...but will wait to see what your reply may be. Could be we are actualy talking the same thing, different expressions.


I would say you are right on the money....
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I'd personally define a "criminal mind" to be when a person has made a decision-- meaning to some degree of his own free will, consciously-- that his own wishes/wants/etc. take precedence over what is lawful, over what is the rights of others, etc.

In other words, the "I Want-" is the individual's only concern.

As the opposite of "insanity," the criminal mind is fully aware of the nature of his actions.
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The criminal is not the exceptional type, but the normal type in a world in which evil has been invented; as cynics like Shakespeare and Swift and Cervantes have all remarked, the criminals on the bench sentence the criminals who come before the bench. The criminal mind is precisely the average mind in this world, after the priests invented sin.
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