There was a report regarding a survey conducted by an agency in the University of USA
and they reached the conclusion that majority of the highly intelligent people
donot have faith in life after death and neither in God contrary to low intelligent people. I donot have the reference of that report but if I find it ,I'll definitely share it here.


How far do you agree with this report?

Even if for the sake of argument we accept that it is true, than don't you think that atheists win because majority always counts?

Lets discuss

Are most of the intelligent people atheists?
Intelligence has nothing to do with knowledge in my perception....Intelligence has to do with capability of knowing, not knowing.....so even if I agreed with this statement (which I don't) it wouldn't really make any difference........

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Given that highly educated people have been immersed in years of secular indoctrination, it is small wonder that they would get such a statistic.

Isn't it lucky that children, then, are not immersed in religious indoctrination, like grace at table, Sunday school, and about a million other ways. I find it fascinating, then, that with no indoctrination at all they wind up believing just what their parents did -- either Jesus or Mohammad or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Do you think it's genetic, and only washed away by all that terrible "secular indoctrination?" (That some people would call education, but I guess you've put that notion in its place, eh?)

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We can never solve this problem as long as we continue with the behavior that implies we from different species.

Nothing will ever be resolved while we continue in our tribal behaviours of distrusting those who aren't like us. We bash them with sticks, because we're frightened to talk to them, in case something they know infects us.

Nothing will ever be resolved while we refuse to use our brains to think with. Nothing will ever be resolved just so long as we assume that the only real wisdom this world has ever known was written centuries and millenia ago, by men ignorant of most of the world and many of the peoples in it, almost all of science, everything about the universe, medicine, biology, etc., etc., etc. Nothing will ever be resolved while we continue to imagine that everthing we have learned since those ancient writers must be understood in the context of their world-view, and not our own.

If (and I mean if) it is really true that intelligent people are a little less likely to believe in god and an afterlife, then maybe it's because they've got the mental and analytical tools with which to actually examine and understand the evidence -- and have found that not only is there none, what evidence there is seems to point relentlessly away from those conclusions. And maybe that's why there's such antipathy to real education, real learning, real science by so many religious people. Like the old Catholic church refusing to let lay people read the Bible, maybe they're just frightened witless that even more people will learn how to examine -- and correctly interpret -- the evidence.

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If (and I mean if) it is really true that intelligent people are a little less likely to believe in god and an afterlife, then maybe it's because they've got the mental and analytical tools with which to actually examine and understand the evidence -- and have found that not only is there none, what evidence there is seems to point relentlessly away from those conclusions
I repeat my previous post ...
Are most of the intelligent people atheists?
Intelligence has nothing to do with knowledge in my perception....Intelligence has to do with capability of knowing, not knowing.....so even if I agreed with this statement (which I don't) it wouldn't really make any difference........

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you know we do this no matter the level of intelligence...the higher up you feel you are you notice at the lower level...and visa versa...the lower see the same behavior in the upper level of treatment to each other and to there what they believe to be lower..and again visa versa.......
i dont know where i am with this....perhaps it is being measured ......but then can it be....again i sure dont know....but i know there is an obvious difference between my ability to retain knowledge and share it...then those around me....but i also am way aware that i seem to know things that so called intelligent knowing is oblivious to...i suppose it could be a whole other thread based on common sense..but not sure that is what i am saying here..i think it is more then that...but again who knows...and further more.....how much does it matter...or does it...what is exactly intelligence...the ability to retain history and know math figures...or read a book and repeat it word for word.....if this is the criteria...many ..perhaps most...miss out on a great deal of intelligence....but of course it would never be missed for the judgment is there of the lack of for the standard of what many seem to try to graph the individual on....
could be...but it also could be what keeps that channel open..perhaps the station is not coming in clear ...but wait...it goes back then..that it is only open for those not so intelligent for they need an out ..an answer....something to trust or believe in.....but wait...some of the very inteligent do have faith....the statement of real learning...real education....those that dont seem to have the level of
book smarts that some seem sure make or break us....well....the level of judgment is from all ...we are missing a bigger picture quite often....i like my painting...some would not give a dime for it...others would perhaps give there life savings...I am going to keep it...

When the catholics were in power, learning was a highly controlled business.
You could at some points be either imprisoned or even killed.
Obviously this was very barbaric and was run by people who had lied and therefore had much to hide, so keep them ignorant by brute force was their solution.
Today things are much different, yet education is still a great means of controlling society.
It is not so much that we are being outright lied to, as people would figure that out, but that the knowledge which has been taught has had components which have been selectively omitted.
Subjects can be taught in biased formats.
Rather than censor, children are bombarded with a lot of facts which amount to little more than useless trivia.
Just because a child can regurgitate the dates and names and places where various things occurred in social studies does not mean that they know why they occurred or that they have all sides of the story.
Yet, by learning how to regurgitate such useless trivia well, they can grow into the assumption that they are educated individuals who now know stuff and are equipped to make adult decisions in a highly complex world where there are seldom simple explanations for why things are happening.

The fact that this poll shows the details it does goes beyond just education, there are many other things going on in the flow of history for the past century which make such findings occur.

Personally though, I am glad that people are moving away from archaic superstitions and are to some degree, being more thoughtful about such things.

On some levels it has been shown that people don't need religion to learn how to be benevolent, compassionate, competent humans.

On other levels, as I think Sendy was implying, the more intelligent some people become the more clever the clubs they use become.

It is at your second paragraph we get off track. These are just symptoms of the true problem. The real problem is that the needs of the groups to which we belong have eclipsed the needs of the species that defines us. This is not a religious problem. It infects all humans. It is the basis of all our wars and crime. It just happens that religion is the most visible grouping in which it is displayed.