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Hi Madeline .

==="I certainly believe in healing, either through prayer or by touch"===

So do I .

In my Health career l , myself have used Reflexology to touch a patient with problems as the Flu or constipation or urinary retention , headaches , all kinds of minor pains and aches and so on , so l know touch healing is real and it seems most take it as accepted but in a gentle way .

One of my concerns is if we actually perfect our touch healings to a higher level such as using touch to bring a person out of a coma or paralysis . If this amazing touch phenomena is brought to a reality of what it is capable of and how to use it in application with rationale so anyone can use it on family and friends etc , this wonderful Touch Healing Wonder could get us in Big trouble ,us being the people on Earth individually or collectively .

Most are not thinking of this and live in daily fun and wonder and enjoy life and this is good

The Healings,all of them here on Earth are in the same capapcity of application be it Witchcraft to Benny Hinn Healing to whatever it is in the same Common Energy and it is safe and even accepted say , like the Standard American Holistic Healing concepts are accepted .

As long as we keep it as it is today we are okay but if our knowledge or even more so our application of this wonderous knowledge is not applied the hidden wonders we so rightfully desire , the truths and answers , will not be known and the Healings we see today will remain today and it has to be this way and it wil remain this way .
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Rev Rex .

I was perusing [ that's my new word lol ] perusing this wonderful site and l came across this ,,,,

=="This has actually happened many times. Usually it makes a minor splash in the news...more of a curiosity than anything...then it is forgotten. "==

This is about a person who can Heal and was in the News and stuff and getting attention but then it dies down and is no longer heard .

However Rev Rex , if this same person went on live TV and as planned, used two fingers , one on each hand and touched this man and he came out of his coma ,,, but then the person explains how it works and how you can do it too whenever you want , and gives the rationale from the inside neuro works to the whole shebang whatever , this person would be grabbed by Intelligence and demand to know what he knows etc and becasue this healing was real .

No one has done this yet and the closest one so far was Jesus but He was killed before the rationale got out of Him .

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I would certainly hope that no one has done this! The few who have tried have immediately been branded as charlatans and phonies, and for good reason. People who heal legitimately now-a-days (and even in the past) aren't doing it in order to receive notoriety, fame, or fortune. There are very few people who wouldn't think that was their motive if they did it on live tv. (It is also the reason why the so called "psychics" like John Edwards who do things on tv are considered fakes by most people.) Of course, Jesus also didn't do it on live tv, nor did he have any sort of press conference afterward, either. In fact, he didn't go out of his way to draw attention to himself, probably because his stated purpose was to teach about God and God's intentions, not to toot his own horn, so to speak.
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Rev Rex , hi .

===The few who have tried have immediately been branded as charlatans and phonies===

My point is not clear as what l am saying is,, if this Healer went on TV and showed that this High Profile Touch Healing was real [NOT FAKE BUT 100% REAL , real , and he could PROVE it as REAL , not fake in any way and shows how kids can do it too

he would be unique .
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That was exactly what I was saying. If it is REAL, the person isn't going to be one who will be doing it on tv. THAT would be phony. The healing I've done, I wouldn't even have considered doing in front of media, and I don't know of a single shaman who would. If any did, I would seriously consider whether they were really shamans, and would definitely doubt it.
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What l am saying is ,it isn't proven as a reality such as aspirin may thin the blood because nobody knows the reality of it .

Excluding Religion , Jesus healed in this High Profile Healing such as touching someone and healing their blindnness or leprosy or even paralysis by touch and so many saw it and they knew He knew .

But since then no one has come close to that .

Because they do not know how this Healing Jesus did was done , with rationale .

Okay Rev Rex suppose l decided to show the world how l will bring the past President of Israel out of his coma using touch . Then l tell them how this amazing reality can be revised to make weapons of such mass destruction it is completely unheard of today but with this new touch healing method shown live on TV as the next wonder of the world we will all be Healing and casting spells and you name it , it will be revealed as a fact that all the unknown will be known .

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It is no different than with Jesus. Remember that at Jesus' time, MOST of the people never saw him perform a miracle, it was just undocumented hearsay. And few of those who did see him perform what was a relatively very few miracles, it was pretty clear that they didn't exactly tell everyone they knew, about it. This makes it almost exactly as healers are today. MOST of the people have never seen those miracles being performed, and the people who do, don't exactly burn the airways letting everyone else know about it. Again, there are many instances of such cases of healing that occur every year. But there are over six billion people, so again, this is a relatively few cases. There is no difference at all, in regard to this, between a healer today and Jesus back then. In fact, right now, there are a huge number of people that point out that there is absolutely no solid proof that Jesus even existed, and there is no written documentation that I know of except in the Bible that say that he healed. So at the time of his life, when the books of the bible weren't even published, it was very much purely hearsay. (This doesn't mean that I don't believe that Jesus existed, only that there is no written documentation that he existed. It would be like me saying that I have a PhD, but not being able to furnish any written proof at all that I went to, and graduated, from college.)

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Okay Rev Rex suppose l decided to show the world how l will bring the past President of Israel out of his coma using touch . Then l tell them how this amazing reality can be revised to make weapons of such mass destruction it is completely unheard of today but with this new touch healing method shown live on TV as the next wonder of the world we will all be Healing and casting spells and you name it , it will be revealed as a fact that all the unknown will be known .

I would again, have grave and sincere doubts if you, or anyone else, went on tv to show you/them healing someone. And again, turning it around, I very seriously doubt that Jesus would have done so either, if he were alive today. Doing so would be working for notoriety, which Jesus did not do. He certainly didn't feel the need to have to "prove" anything to anyone, any more than the healers of today do. You might note that even though this is true, there are many documented cases of shamans and other healers healing people of untreatable illnesses such as cancer. This hasn't been shown on tv (that I know of), but trained observers who were there, such as for National Geographic, CNN, and similar, have stated that they have absolutely no explanation for it. Naturally, this just means that they had no scientific explanation for it, any more than there would have been for the healing done by Jesus, Buddha, or Mohammad.
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The Shamans and Doctors and Faith healers etc all are real and l feel this but there is more than those healings and it involves much more than healing as the high profile healing has another aspect of it which l know is a reality and l know from my very own soul and eyes .

When a Shaman or a Benny Hinn heals , although both healings are in completely different realms , in the whole picture they both and most healings fall into the same category and also this categpry includes all the accepted things like spiritual healings and all the way to eating breakfast , it all falls into the same category and even some high profile healings do but there is another category and not known today and includes areas like healing comas all the time or anything of that caliber /

This healing is the one that falls into why we do not know if God is 100& real
and just like most unanswered questions this high profile healing is not to be known for it's reality and it isn't today .
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Exactly. The source is exactly the same now as it has been for all time, and is exactly the same source that Jesus used. And many people don't understand or realize that this is a spiritual source based on the creator. In shamanistic terms, the power comes from either the spirit realm or from Mother Earth...in either case, it still comes from the creator, and it is still spiritual. This is why I contend that Jesus was one of the greatest Shamans of all time.
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