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The Case for Happy Thoughts

By Deepak Chopra

Angry, hostile thoughts bring about rapid heartbeat, a rise in blood pressure, and flushing of the face, among other changes. Anxious thoughts can also speed up the heart and raise blood pressure, as well as induce tremor of the hand, cold sweat, a knotted stomach, and a pervasive weakening, as when we say a person is "sick with dread."

SIMPLE SOLUTION: Different kinds of thoughts must produce chemical changes in the brain in order to account for such physical manifestations. To quote one researcher, "There is no twisted thought without a twisted molecule."
Likewise, happy thoughts of all kinds, loving thoughts, thoughts of peace and tranquility, of compassion, friendliness, kindness, generosity, affection, warmth, and intimacy each produce a corresponding state of physiology via the flux of neurotransmitters and hormones in the central nervous system.

The profound physiological changes that happy thoughts induce lead to good health because the neuro-transmitters that mediate them in the body have a stimulating effect. If, as we have seen, the body's immune system is weakened by feelings of anger, apathy, enmity, resentment, conflict and gloom, then happy thought patterns should serve to increase the body's resistance to disease through a similar, but reversed effect.

For thoughts to be capable of curing, they must be innocently held and sincerely believed in over a period of time, because the longer the curative thought patterns influence the appropriate neuro-transmitters, the more neuro-transmitters can influence the physiology of the brain.
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Maybe it's me

I always have trouble with Deepak Chopra.

Deep down, this is just a dressed up version of Pollyanna's "the Happy Game", isn't it?

I have some trouble with the point of view that pathologizes all human responses except one. I do not think that we evolved with a complex range of emotions, survived through millions of years, struggled up 10,000 years of civilization, only to be told that most of what we feel is "bad".

The fact is, sometimes anger is called for, sometimes depression is legitimate, sometimes we are sad. If that was not the case, we would scarecly appreciate the times when we do feel happy; we would be numb automatons. Life might not actually last longer, but it probably would feel like it becuase it would be so boring.

Sorry, I'm not trying to give offence; this is just how I react to this sort of thing. It seems to me that, at one end, we have people telling us that simply thinking happy thought will make us all better, and at the other end we have the pharmaceutical indusrty trying to medicate us all into prozac bliss. I do not like it.
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Good for you Eolas. Again I am with you : ) I too am not a fan of constantly controlling my thoughts, changing them, not judging them and so on.

My approach is to remove the belief that causes the experience.Thoughts are just by products of beliefs. If the belief is removed by it's root the thoughts asscociated with it are removed too.

What I did like about this article, is that a Doctor is validating that our mental condition has an effect on our physical condition. Many don't even know that there is a connection and that we don't have to stop at medication.
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l ''Deepak Chopra...He said ,,

->''For thoughts to be capable of curing, they must be innocently held and sincerely believed in over a period of time, because the longer the curative thought patterns influence the appropriate neuro-transmitters, the more neuro-transmitters can influence the physiology of the brain.''<-
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The 'thoughts' he speaks of to 'Heal' , l am looking at those words and assuming it to mean also that a Person can use what he stated to not only 'Heal' yourself but for you to Heal others using the same "System" .

In that respect your Healing behaviour application will cause a chemical reaction in the Person you are Healing as presented by their change in perhaps vital signs such as Pulse , pupil reaction and so much more as they consciously acknowledge to you as you are 'thought'- Healing them and their body signs react accordingly and is measureable .

However it seems only the Healer Jesus did such Healing extravaganza as Healing one with His thought . Surely if that was defined so all could do it to Heal that way it would be happening now as we might be Healing Comas and Paralysis etc by our thought . This is not happening today and has not happened since Jesus who was stopped from doing it again .

Suggesting the Healing of another this way , he is correct that there is an innocent factor in the behaviour of the Healer that is in a sequence seen by the behaviour sequences of the Healer's life . These innocent behaviour sequences and how they and a belief of what the Healer is seeing before the Healer's very own eyes such as his own Coma Healings etc is more than just 'thought' producing a neuro or chemical or whatever reaction in the Healer and ''Healee'' and in High Profile Healing such as 'Coma' etc another factor is involved which although entails our very behaviour it has nothing to do with us in this respect and that is why we do not know of it or can utilise it for Coma Healing etc .

He states some valid truths . Self Healing is what our body is all about just as when we are doing something , our heart continues to beat and we breathe even if we are not consciously aware of it . We are all 'Terminal' and our bodies you might think would always be in 'Healing Mode and Action' as seen with it's immune system etc .
When we try to 'sense' our unconscious breathing while in non 'sense' mode we are in a sort of 'out of body ' state where we are for example reading a book and breathing and we are not consciously making ourself breathe while we read ,, it just happens but in an instant we can go from unconscious awareness of our breathing to instant awareness of it , control of it and we can count our breaths , however if you can for example 'read' something and count your breaths at the same time while not being in control of the breaths , you are using with 'conscious awareness' your conscious and unconscious nervous systems at the same time . Just as in an 'out of body event' where you are awake conscious in your asleep unconsious mind using both conscious and unconscious systems in nexus .

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Imagine you have practised all kinds of Healing including Touch Healing .You are living alone now. You can feel the "Depression Train" coming in real fast and it stops at your feet huffing and pufffing and you can hear it calling you , "ALL ABOARD" .You reach out to God and ask , " Lord am l all alone ? " ,, and as you start to board the "Depression Train" your heartbeat is as fast as the train , and you suddenly sense God as your heartbeat and feel not just 'not' alone , but with a 'life force' , your own circulation as you begin to see it as a seperate entity from you . Every pulse and every inch your life fluids push through your body in a rythm that is only 'yours' and a rythm that not only is pumping in the rythm at the 'moment' but 'all' your life each and every day your rythm is pulsing and changing and when you see it you see your life rythm as it was in your past and , now. You want to somehow discover this 'life rythm' that has been going on in you and you never knew of it this way so you try to find "it" . You make a giant graph with a starting point . You also make a second one . The first graph you will chart your pulse rythm , your 'life rythm' continually by putting a DOT on the graph for each and every pulse beat you have since you start . On the second graph you are graphing the 'pulse rythm' of the 'Sun' and you start , for example ,,by placing a marker or say stick in the ground and when you start you place a DOT on the graph ., and each time the Sun and Earth moves , as shown by the shade reflection by the stick or marker , you place the next DOT and then the next DOT and so on .

When you start you are starting 'two' graphs at 'exactly' the same time and one is your Pulse 'life rythm' and the other is your Sun 'life rythm' . You chart and monitor them for a year . During this you are feeling the pulse of You and the Sun and you can feel a kind of nexus [connection] and that you and the Sun are sharing a great Secret . You are charting you and the Sun for every second of every day for one year in five second , or so , intervals.

After the year you take the two graphs / charts and you sort of place then one below the other horizontally and like two parallel lines starting at the start and continuing and continuing till they get to the end of the chart and so the charts present two lines kind of going up and down but moving left to right and continuing for one year .
You see that the two lines , one your pulse life rythm and one the Sun's life pulse rythm and they are running side by side and the two lines get close to each other occasonally but they do not connect . You follow the gently parallel lines and you also know that you have charted the time so that you can catch patterns and see if the two lines are similiar .The lines finally slowly start to get close to each other but do not connect in any way or at time in the charts .Then 'it' happens and the two parallel lines have gotten closer to each other and 'touched' each other,connected , but you notice it was only connected for five seconds and then they continued seperated all the way to the end of the graphs .So the graphs were the length of one complete year charted into 'five second intervals' as each life beat of you and each life beat of the Sun and they eventually became "one'' in 'sinc ' or in 'nexus' for five seconds in that whole 12 month period .

You now know the 'exact' second that you and the Sun did the 'sinc' . You soon find out that at that 'precise' moment of the 'sinc' ,, if had you been, at that 'moment' for example , with your Hands on a person in a coma and you were in the actual attempting to Heal that person using say , Touch Healing and if it happened at the instant of the "sinc" ,, the Healing of the Coma would be succesful.

You now cannot just go out and stick your finger on a Coma victim and Heal when your 'sinc' moment on that same date next year occurs or say , just keep your finger on the person for the whole year waitng for the 'sinc' moment because that moment cannot be choreographed , and the whole event for the whole year is a precious sacred time between You and the Sun and no one else.
The Coma Healing cannot be choreographed to that "sinc" moment because that "sinc" moment itself cannot be choreographed . You 'cannot' chart and 'live' it at the same time but you can chart it just to chart but you cannot chart it each day and when the two lines get real close you figure they will connect soon because they won't even get close if you are expecting it because of the 'chance factor' which cannot be choreographed in any way .

So that "sinc' moment is precious and although in 'my' context here you can see it may be utilised ,,, however in reality application of 'it' for use of it,, it is not ,, and today it is unheard of ,, in Healing or actually in anything l assume .

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