sermon on heaven - Page 2

falin · #11 (**permalink**) 30th August 2007, 08:42 PM

I think Heaven does exist as a place, but a garden world rather than a city.

Heaven is also something we can carry with us if we truly and deeply love God (*sigh*... one day...)

vivamis123 · #12 (**permalink**) 30th August 2007, 11:55 PM

But falin, what if a city is heaven to someone? Does everyone get the same in heaven? And who gets to decide?

falin · #13 (**permalink**) 31st August 2007, 09:43 AM

Sorry, I guess I mean that to me it wouldn't be a city... I reckon wherever you want to go, there you go.

Tonyamendola · #14 (**permalink**) 27th April 2008, 12:28 AM

Heaven is in thought

There is no form

We are all ONE
There is only LOVE

Everything else is utterly irrelevant

Tonyamendola · #15 (**permalink**) 27th April 2008, 12:31 AM

We return to our SELF

As we were created

As we have always been

Everything

After all who could change Perfection ?

What could change Perfection

Why would Perfection need changing if its perfect ?

GlorytoGod · #16 (**permalink**) 21st August 2008, 02:22 PM

I am unsure as to exactly what heaven is, I do believe it is a place, but it could also be a state of mind.

As a place, I think it is a perfect place where there is no evil only good and where we will dwell in spirit with our father Abba.

In our minds maybe we can visit heaven briefly, I dont know.

on earth the devil is here but in heaven he has been cast out and has no influence.

Quote:

Revelation 12:7-13 (New American Standard Bible)
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

7And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon The dragon and his angels waged war,

8and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven.

9And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

11"And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.

12"For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time."

GlorytoGod · #17 (**permalink**) 21st August 2008, 02:24 PM

I am unsure as to exactly what heaven is, I do believe it is a place, but it could also be a state of mind.

As a place, I think it is a perfect place where there is no evil only good and where we will dwell in spirit with our father Abba.

on earth the devil is here but in heaven he has been cast out and has no influence.

Quote:

Revelation 12:7-13 (New American Standard Bible)
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

7And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon The dragon and his angels waged war,

8and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven.

9And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

11"And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.

12"For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time."

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