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Old 3rd January 2009, 08:00 PM
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shwan let me clarify

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It is my opinion that any God who demands worship or die is no God at all and is just a more advanced being who is using their technological superiority to force all humanity into servitude and slavery.
Just because they are more technologically advanced does not make them God it just shows how primitive we really are.

Dear Shawn,

Let me clarify, there is a word in Islam which is quiet often misinterpretted
,it is "Jihad" which actually means to struggle or strive in the way of God.

Now some people misunderstand and think that it means to raise weapon and fight against non-muslims. Unfortunately Jihad is not only limited to fighting,
fighting is the last resort in Islam.

There are levels of Jihad and it is divided accordingly. Jihad also means to struggle against crime and corruption. Jihad also means to fight against cruelty .

God has not forced us "muslims" to die for Him ,it is up to us to choose this path.

As far as worship is concerned, yes God does demand us to worship him because it is for our own benefit. Do you know that there are more than 200000 angels who worship God and remain prostrated infront of him.

Than why Does God order us to worship him?

It is also a test from Al-mighty , he has ordered us to obey and worship him but on the other hand ,He has also given us free will.

He wants to see how many of us obey and worship Him or follow there desires.

If God wanted he would have distroyed those who donot follow Him but ,He will tell them what they did during the Day of Judgment when each and every one of us will be held accountable for deeds.
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Dear Shawn,

Let me clarify, there is a word in Islam which is quiet often misinterpretted
,it is "Jihad" which actually means to struggle or strive in the way of God.

Now some people misunderstand and think that it means to raise weapon and fight against non-muslims. Unfortunately Jihad is not only limited to fighting,
fighting is the last resort in Islam.

There are levels of Jihad and it is divided accordingly. Jihad also means to struggle against crime and corruption. Jihad also means to fight against cruelty .

God has not forced us "muslims" to die for Him ,it is up to us to choose this path.

As far as worship is concerned, yes God does demand us to worship him because it is for our own benefit. Do you know that there are more than 200000 angels who worship God and remain prostrated infront of him.

Than why Does God order us to worship him?

It is also a test from Al-mighty , he has ordered us to obey and worship him but on the other hand ,He has also given us free will.

He wants to see how many of us obey and worship Him or follow there desires.

If God wanted he would have distroyed those who donot follow Him but ,He will tell them what they did during the Day of Judgment when each and every one of us will be held accountable for deeds.

I won't be held accountable for my deeds because he has never explained to me which deeds are unacceptable and why.
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Old 4th January 2009, 04:32 PM
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Fahad, I really think you do not understand the statement of mine which you quoted.
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It is my opinion that any God who demands worship or die is no God at all and is just a more advanced being who is using their technological superiority to force all humanity into servitude and slavery.
Just because they are more technologically advanced does not make them God it just shows how primitive we really are.
My point is that this/these being(s) who impose these religions which say either worship me or burn for eternity in hell/die are not gods, although they are more advanced and live longer.
In primitive terms they would indeed be gods, but really they are not.
If they need worship of their self then they have a big problem with vanity and ego as the real God does not demand worship, or submission, in fact, does not demand anything as "he" needs nothing from the creation.
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