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Old 24th October 2008, 10:49 AM
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i don't know who hypothesized this idea about the kippah but even a glance at halachic writings shows that the Tallit is there for the purpose of fulfilling the mitzvah of Tzitzit and has nothing to do w/ covering one's head.

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It's often difficult to know where certain traditions come from, and I'm afraid the history of the kippa is just one of those.

not really, the Talmud clearly discusses that one should wear a head covering (men in particular) at all times.

"Cover your head in order that the fear of heaven may be upon you." Tractate Shabbat 156b

as far as the kippah goes it is defenitely a custom but has become equal to law because rabbinic authority considers it a "Kiddush HaShem".

chances are that it emerged out of a desire to cover one's head all the time, (not just during prayer which is the minimum requirement) and they wanted something simple and light to wear.
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Old 24th October 2008, 02:52 PM
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not really, the Talmud clearly discusses that one should wear a head covering (men in particular) at all times.

Then why did the RAMBAM consider it optional?

Let me just add below which is from Wikipedia ( Kippah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ), which is not a traditional Jewish source:

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As to the obligation of wearing a kippah, halakhic experts agree that it is a minhag (custom). The prevailing view among Rabbinical authorities is that this custom has taken on a kind of force of law (Shulkhan Arukh, Orach Chayim 2:6), because it is an act of Kiddush Hashem. From a strictly Talmudic point of view, however, the only moment when a Jewish man is required to cover his head is during prayer (Mishneh Torah, Ahavah, Hilkhot Tefilah 5:5).


This is from Judaism 101 ( Judaism 101: Signs and Symbols) , which is a reflection of Orthodox beliefs:

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Whatever the reason given, however, covering the head has always been regarded more as a custom rather than a commandment. Although it is a common pious practice to cover the head at all times, it is not religiously mandatory. For example, it is widely accepted that one may refrain from wearing a head covering at work if your employer requires it (for reasons of safety, uniformity, or to reduce distractions). You can take off your yarmulke for a job interview if you think it will hurt your chances of getting the job. There is an amusing article about this dilemma, The Kippah Debate, at Aish.com.

And this is from the Jewish Virtual Library ( Kippah ):

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Many Ashkenazi rabbis acknowledge that wearing a head covering at all times was once considered an optional midat chasidut (pious act), but, today, full*time head covering is the norm except under extenuating circumstances. Sephardic communities generally did not have the custom of wearing a kippah all the time.

Have a good Shabbos, btw.
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Then why did the RAMBAM consider it optional?

i never said that one was Chaiv to wear something on their head at all times, what i was pointing out is that the Talmud shows the beginning, clearly, of the practice of covering one's head, which is the purpose of the kippah. When did the practice of specifically wearing a kippah as opposed to other head coverings begin, that's something else all together, but i think even the Rambam would agree that Talmudic sources at the very least encourage such a practice.

and if you read the bottom of my post you see that i am very clear that the kippah IS optional and that it's use probably derives from a matter of comfort, not unlike the quote from Judaism 101

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There is no special significance to the yarmulke as a specific type of head covering. Its light weight, compactness and discreteness make it a convenient choice of head gear.

ultimately whether or not one chooses to wear a kippah (or head covering at all) all the time is a matter of personal observance and one's own comfort level.
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i never said that one was Chaiv to wear something on their head at all times, what i was pointing out is that the Talmud shows the beginning, clearly, of the practice of covering one's head, which is the purpose of the kippah. When did the practice of specifically wearing a kippah as opposed to other head coverings begin, that's something else all together, but i think even the Rambam would agree that Talmudic sources at the very least encourage such a practice.

and if you read the bottom of my post you see that i am very clear that the kippah IS optional and that it's use probably derives from a matter of comfort, not unlike the quote from

Sorry, I obviously misinterpreted what you were saying. Hope you had a good Shabbos btw.
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Sorry, I obviously misinterpreted what you were saying. Hope you had a good Shabbos btw.

it was very good thank you
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