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Old 19th August 2005, 07:09 PM
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In regards to the 'will' being the key to achievement (to collapsing the wave to achieve the desired result);how do you define "will" ?

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By will I mean your intent. There is an old Zen adage,“munen muso,” which means “where there is no intention, there is no thought of moving.” In order to utilize magickal energy, you must use your will. In Eastern philosophies this magickal energy is known as chi. Another old adage reads: "Chi follows intent." So another way of stating this is to say that chi (energy) follows your intent or will.
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What is your take on the formalization and organization of Wiccan, Pagan, and "new age" clergy?

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It is a sign of the rapid growth and maturing of the Pagan community. Not all of those setting themselves up as clergy deserve to be community leaders, but that's true of any religion you care to name.
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Will, intent & magick

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By will I mean your intent. There is an old Zen adage,“munen muso,” which means “where there is no intention, there is no thought of moving.” In order to utilize magickal energy, you must use your will. In Eastern philosophies this magickal energy is known as chi. Another old adage reads: "Chi follows intent." So another way of stating this is to say that chi (energy) follows your intent or will.
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In regards to "you must use your will", I wonder who is it, that exercises intent, or 'wills'? If I desire "X", is that my will, or merely my desire speaking? Is there a distinction between desire/will/chi/intent, and the real Self?

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Do you feel it warps the initial message of an "informal" and "freespirited" paganism to have organized and formal clergy?
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Dear Michael:

By will I mean your intent. There is an old Zen adage,“munen muso,” which means “where there is no intention, there is no thought of moving.” In order to utilize magickal energy, you must use your will. In Eastern philosophies this magickal energy is known as chi. Another old adage reads: "Chi follows intent." So another way of stating this is to say that chi (energy) follows your intent or will.


In regards to "you must use your will", I wonder who is it, that exercises intent, or 'wills'? If I desire "X", is that my will, or merely my desire speaking? Is there a distinction between desire/will/chi/intent, and the real Self?

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Desire and will are linked. We use will to get that which we desire.
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Do you feel it warps the initial message of an "informal" and "freespirited" paganism to have organized and formal clergy?

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Let me put it this way: If you want to hold events like large Pagan gatherings, you need to have an effective organizing body. If you want to represent your religious interests to government agencies, etc, you have to have some sort of organized lobby group. The individuals involved in this could be considered clergy. I'm not saying that we should have full time paid clergy: If you've read my books you'll know I don't support that. My main objection to Christianity is that it has become "Churchianity." It is a business, not a religion. I'm very wary of Pagan "churches" that open store fronts and get involved in things like prison chaplaincy. It sounds like missionary work to me. Pagans should not proselytize.
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