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I am still wondering how the Good Americans would have survived if the surface of the Earth were damaged.
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How the Good Americans Plan to Survive

There are large scale underground facilities across this nation. Former White House lawyer John Dean reported in his recent book, of how he spent time in one during the Nixon administration. He was involved in a nuclear war scenario, and he went to his assigned shelter. Dean reported that it was suprisingly agreeable.

Most Americans are unaware of the large scale underground bunker system spread across the nation, because they were not and will not be invited into the shelters, when and if a nuclear war gets underway.

The point of my Book is to reveal that our dominant class has planned to give us all a nuclear war, whether we want it or not, and the only reason that we have not been subject to a nuclear war is because of these unknown higher level powers who have intervened, repeatedly, to prevent our destruction.

Several Trillion dollars are missing from the Pentagon, though much was probably absconded with, a large amount may of also been used to equip and provision the underground, for the arrival of those "In the Know."

It is the same in any War, the dominant class hides, and the ordinary class dies. When the war is ended the dominant class returns to again take up their place running the society. The Gentleman class does not fight for their country, they only fight to maintain their right to prey upon their fellow countryman.

On 911 George Bush and his entourage fled to Omaha, and the bunker there that was designed to wage a nuclear war from. It is certain that in a nuclear war, the people in the "Know," will flee to bunkers, that are known only to the select or "Chosen" few who are to survive a Nuclear war.

The spread of the Iraq war into Iran is a mechanism that will insure a nuclear war, if the current occupant of the White House can get away with it.

Recently there have been reports of Extraterrestrial activity in the skies over Iran. The ET group may be marking either a nuclear weapon or a place in which the Iranian leadership plan to hide.

Some aerial activity by ET is to mark something that they want us to examine. This is why they buzz aircraft; they could be saying "what type of weapon is on this plane," or "What war machine operator is on this plane."

A few months ago there was constant buzzing of several planes that landed in Las Vegas. Most likely, this was a meeting of the high level war criminals making their final plans to get a nuclear war underway.

Israel has underground bunkers for the entire nation, and there is speculation that the Gaza strip was cleared so that the Israelis living there would have access to the underground in Israel proper, apparently there were no long term shelters in the Gaza strip.

If we slip into a nuclear war with Iran, this will not be some terrible mistake of judgement, it is rather the plan, the whole plan, and nothing but the plan.

You may of noticed the removal of certain high level military people in the American military. The reason for this is because there are Military plans in motion to arrest the government of the United States of America, starting at the top.

Former President Clinton is spending much time with the Bush family, it could be because he is aware of his acts of mass murder against the people of Yugoslavia, and that those terrorist criminal acts may bring him to a occupy a seat in front of a war crimes tribunal. Along with his terrorist destruction of a medical products plant in Africa.

What we have is a of breach of contract between the people of America and the High Contracting Authority known as the Government of the United States of America, this breach is due to more than mere negligence, the agreement between the people of America and the Government, is ended due to the Criminal Intent of the officers of the Corporate State of America.

The Government of the United Staes actually ended in April of 1947. When the decision was made to destroy the human race with nuclear weapons, the Charter that created this government, was revoked at that moment.

The acts of ET, or some may say the "Gods" have truly ended this rogue nuclear terrorist state of America permantly.

The Gods themselves have ****ed and Condemned the Government of the United States of America.
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If the surface of the Earth is destroyed by nuclear weapons it won't matter how good the bunkers are. The survivors would eventually need to raise animals and plants for food. If the Earth's surface is destroyed this would not be possible.

Who are the Elite who are planning the nuclear war and to destroy the human race? You said they would survive to rule. If the human race is destroyed there would be no one to rule.

Why would we "slip into a nuclear war" if ET is seeing to it that no nuclear weapons will be used?

Why is the US condemned and ****ed? If this is the case why are we being protected from nuclear war. What are the consequences of being condemned?
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The Prime Object: Genocide

If the surface of the planet is destroyed with nuclear weapons, there will be an extended time out for plant and animal life forms to reappear on the surface.

The group that has plans to wage a nuclear war also has plans to live in the underground permanently. As it will be a relatively small number, stored provisions will last for many years. The only limitation to life underground as a permanent condition will be access to energy sources.

Artificial lighting will grow all of the plant and fiber necessary and animal herds could also be raised in the underground, though a long term underground would lead to plant utilization as the first choice for protein sources.

Who exactly are the "Elite" who have plotted to exterminate the human race?

In the political world they are known as the "Alliance." This is a Group of intertwined groups that were identified in the early 1990s by the researcher Nola Webster. Ms Websters findings were rejected at the time because she identified one of the groups as Jews. Today there is an identification that makes specific that it is not the Jews per se, rather that there is a group that arises from the Jews, and is a minority within the Jewish groups, who provide one leg of the "Alliance."

This is the group we refer to today as the "Zionists." The other group that makes up the "Alliance," are the Hanoverian Germans. Again, it is a specific group of Germans that are bound to the desires of the members of European Royalty. The English royalty are Germans who dominate the island of England.

The Jewish writer Henry Makow gives a wonderful dissertation on these groups on his website.

Who will they rule if we are exterminated? They intend to bring along their workforce to maintain their level of comfort while underground.

Why would we slip into a nuclear war if ET has already shut them down?

Though ET has held them down for now, there is no certainty that ET will continue to intervene. If we as thinking and feeling beings cannot understand how malign this odious band of fiends are, or if through callous indifference we allow these monsters from the human race to continue unchecked, ET may stand aside and let us be destroyed. The final decision if we live as sentient beings in peace, or are destroyed by the Pentagon, is in our hands. Our ultimate destiny is ours to choose.

Why is the Government of the United States "****ed and Condemned?"

The word "****ed" is a swear word that carries with it a curse. A curse is a promise to do violence to another. When a politician enters office they "Swear" to uphold the office and implicit in this act of swearing is a promise to do violence to those that oppose the powers of the office.

Our political structure is a predatory despotism by birth, and has remained disguised as a participatory democracy. This "swearing" function is one aspect of the violent nature of its birth.

The use of force has been repeatedly demonstrated by "ET" against a specific number of nuclear war criminals. They have not killed many, yet they do use force when it is appropriate. Most of the force that they have employed since 1947, is against those who knowingly attempt to use force against them.

A fighter pilot who is unaware of what is going on, and shoots at a "ET" craft, the craft most likely will accelerate out of sight. On the other hand, if a military pilot opens up on "ET" will the full knowledge of who they are shootiing at, "ET" may hit the pilot with a sound beam and then freeze their fuel line, sending the pilot into eternity.

In my book, "The Politics of Extraterrestrials" I report on the Battle of Ben Mac Dui, where "ET" killed 4 airforce pilots in one day, because they chose to attack one of "ETs" craft. So the killing events are to be one source of "****ation."

What are the consequences of "Condemnation?" This is a declaration that something is unfit for use.

When something is condemned it no longer has the protections that the law provides for persons and property in ourworld.

Some of the legal implications of this intervention are staggering, in that everyone who is held within our prison camps, shall walk free.

This system that "Condemns" people to prison and its corrosive effects is one of the main enemies of all humankind. Prisons constitute one of the main arms of Militarism and tyranny. The condemnation of this system, will end both militarism and prison camp building.

Some members of the political world view "Cunning and Violence," to be the "True Law." When force became overwhelming in the nuclear world, they themselves were too primitive to change their behaviors.

Centuries had proven to them that killing of their fellow humans was the "One sure route to wealth." If they could not continue to prey upon us, no one would. They then set about a plan then to destroy us in total.

The use of force by "ET" is ****ation of a system that could and did attempt the destruction of most of humanity. Condemnation is the total rejections of such hideous plans. When the mass awakens to what has been happening, they may understand it in basic legal terms.

If one sets about with a neighbor for joint protection, and together buy a gun and ammo to share, and one of the two decides to rob and murder the other, what are the implications of such an agreement?

It is as if you returned home and your neighbor aimed the gun at you and pulled the trigger; low and behold, it was that one bullet out of a thousand that was a dud. You heard nothing and went on with your agreement for protection with you now "****ed and Condemned" neighbor, though you still have not figured it out because no one has told you yet that your neighbor has already attempted to murder you.

This is analogous to the relation that we have with our nuclear rogue governments. They are legally, "****ed and Condemned;" that the intended victims do not understand it yet, does not change the legal picture.

Suppose another neighbor video-taped the attempt on your life, and showed it to you. The awareness of the violation would end any and all agreements that you have with your, now attempted assailant.

The ****ation of the act, is that now you would be lawfully entitled to use whatever force is necessary to end the threat against your life, and then to bring your attempted assailant to Justice.

In this instance it would be to call to the authorities for assistance, yet, in the real world that we live in, it is the authorities themselves who are the assailants, and who continue to pose a threat.

In the absence of other legitimate authority, a Citizens Arrest is allowed.

According to Karl Liebknecht (1873-1919) the true function of war is related to the dynamics of class politics. He said the true function of war is to "Subordinate the mass of the Domestic population, to Exploitation at the hands of the Dominant class."

Why in a nation of excess do so many have so little? This is a dynamic of this class war, that the dominant class has been winning, yet they know in any confrontation with the mass, their only chance to prevail against us is to use weapons of mass destruction, and that is indeed what they have planned and plotted all along to do. They have pulled the trigger, repeatedly pulled the trigger on us, and we continue to exist because of this higher level power who has kindly intervened.

The consequences of this "ET" intervention are staggering, and the thought that we may live in a just relationship with one another on this planet, is heart warming to say the least.

Dr Leary referred to a relationship with "ET" as one of "Inter-species symbiosis." That is a relationship that benefits both of us, with no negative aspects to either.

I appreciate your questions, and would next like to discuss our genetic heritage and how "ET" enters into that, and more of your good questions.
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Questions again:

- Does an (even) higher intelligence occur to ET?

- If you were a betting person, who would you place your money on? The masses "figuring it out" and then exercising dominion over humanity or the guys with the big bombs "winning?"

- Are members "born into" the Alliance and/or can say an Eskimo "earn his way" into the Alliance?

- Has a member of the Alliance ever left the Alliance and exposed stuff?

- Let's say the masses "win" and that reality is in place. Does ET hang around and join in the huge celebration party that the masses are throwing in honor of.....well you know....?

- Okay, I'm gonna get a little dark for a second, but why do you think ET would suddenly "abandon us" in our sudden annihilation? I mean, doesn't that strike you as a little irresponsible? Why hang around this long only to allow what is not desired to happen, just to happen? I don't know if it's just me, but leaving us, strikes me as, were you part of the problem or part of the solution?

That's all for now, and thanks for the responses!

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If you and so many other people know about this alliance and the underground shelters, why are we saying this is a secret? Why is everyone just writing about it? I would think everyone in the know would be doing everything they could to break up the alliance and secure the shelters. Also, I would think they would do everything they could to alert people.
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Extraterrestrial Intelligence and other questions

Really good question. There is a book called, "The Contact has Begun," by Phillip Krapf. He talked with a group that is on the other side of the moon and they talked of warfare and intelligence.

The being said that war is not found in outer space because when a group rises to "Absolute interlligence," they seek relations without struggle or force. This "Absolute intelligence," is the level to whatever the species is able to reach.

If you have read any of the religious groups who speak of the "Eyes of the Beast," this could rather be higher level groups and the affect they have upon us when we see one of them.

This I relate in my book about an Extraterrestrial that I saw in May of 1997.

I was heading to lunch at an amusement park that I worked in, turning the corner about 50 ft ahead was a woman about 25 years of age. She glittered from head to toe, it must be the refraction of their skin is different then ours. As I approached her I noticed her body was shaped in the stomach and chest area differently than us, she was "Tubular" shaped.

Her hair was white blond and very thin, as a woman of 100 years of age, and above her left eye the hair was tinted silver. Just any any young lady out having fun would do. She was with a group of people that were all ordinary humans.

It was about 10 feet from her, I looked into her eyes; her eyes produced a reaction similiar to if I had seen a full grown mountain lion. This may be what people describe when they talk about the eyes of the beast.

Her head was same as ours, so brain capacity seems that it should be similiar. We have 10 Billion neural connections in our brain. Because of her lineage, she may of had 60 Billion neural connections. To see someone that powerful is what could be producing the reaction that we refer to as the eyes of the Beast.

As I passed her I looked back and she turned her head and flipped her hair over, so that I could see her ear. It was about 7 inches long; my next thought to myself was: "I have got to get a medical book and see what they call that syndrome."

It was nearly 2 days later that it entered my mind that I had seen a higher level being. I only regret that I didn't visit with her. I am sure she is a very nice "Being." The humans with her are refered to as the Ambassadors. There are humans who provide tour guide sorts of services to these visitors.

Next Question; Who to bet on; the masses or Big Bombers;

My hope is that Big Bomber decides to select a new strategy and that we offer a way to allow the strategy to happen before the masses figure it out, there best deal is still available. Part of why they continue to stick to the destructive strategy is related to fear; They do fear a quickening of the masses to their game. If you had the loss of a loved one to say, a heart attack, and you now learn that someone gave them a contaminated soda right before they fell over. This is one of the reasons for fear of reprisal and in the past the only method to cool the masses down was to use the old war game trick.

I see an easy way around this difficulty by using the benefits provided for within the common law. If one were given the choice of seeing the perpetrator go to jail for life, or instead, receiving 4 million dollars as compensation, what would most people do? I think most would take a settlement and let bygones be bygones and move into a new world. I put this idea forward so that the persons who are still trying to pull the pin on us, can see themselves, that there is no need to immolate the human race.

James Madison refered to the mass of the population as "The Great Beast." And our eyes are not even that powerful.

The awakening of the masses is continuing anyway, and if the mass awakens within a short time and pulls the plug on this war machine, we will find a way to resolve all of the issues created by this "Born Defective," political system.

The masses will figure it out given time and a little concentration. Some who have hooked their world to the false reality that is given to us, may need a little extra time and understanding to get over how totally that the Big Bomber group has fooled them. Tricked from birth, and their parents were fooled before them.

The "Alliance" that is pressing all of the war buttons is you might say an equal opportunity employer. Henry Makow traces them several hundred years back through the banking and finance groups. Though it appears to be certain families at the heart of it, actually it may be only the interests of this group that are constant.

As to exposing the "Alliance," yes there are several books from people within who have talked of it. There is one written by a banker "Warburg," who described how they helped to put Hitler into power, knowing full well that Hitler was going to target the Jews for abuse. When one undertakes to prey on another, for profit, the Jewish members of the "Alliance" would not allow a sentimental notion to interfere with making a buck.

The German members of Royalty aimed to put Germany into a war also for profit. War is a business, and the one sure route to wealth.

Lets say we win; and one way or another peace prevails all around us, what doe's ET do for an encore?

This is when we enter into a relationship that will carry us to other worlds and new discoveries. ET has a continuing interest in "Mining" the farm, and of course will be helped in whatever it is they seek without hinderance.

The benefits to us will be extreme in the positive direction. One of the earlier reasons for war was to secure resources. With our new technologies, our resources will last until "Eternity," with no necessity to use force to secure them.

Will ET walk out on us at such a critical time in our history?

I sure hope not. The contactee Ed Meyers was told by one of the ET that if we cannot allow peace to happen, and we let this war machine run on, that there is a time that they will step aside and let the Pentagon reduce us to nuclear waste. That was the Plan from the beginning.

Currently, our highest office is occupied by a person who has committed the ultimate in high crimes. The tribunal at Nuremberg that tried the NAZIs, declared that the greatest crime of them all, and was in fact the root of all of the other crimes, was the crime of "Initiating aggressive war."

This criminal cabal, has Initiated a war of aggression. What is troubling is that some 40% of the population supports, what is in affect, the gravest crimes against humanity. For that 40%, ask them the question "How would they like to be immolated in a nuclear war?"

Why are we saying that this is a secret? everybody knows about the shelters and the "Alliance' Right?

Many people are in the know about some of these things, yet most do not know that the decision was made in 1947 to exterminate them. Many would think that that is not true!

Some other folks feel that is too big of a story to even concern themselves with. They say things like, "I can't do anything about it; so why should I even waste my time thinking about it."

Here is a thought to share that may help us in some small measure to guide ourselves through these times.

Many writers have claimed that we are not from this planet, instead we were put here by some higher power. It seems certain that we provide Biological resources to some of these higher level powers, yet apparently we did arise on this planet and about 200,000 years ago ET genetically engineered us. I think this is where the religious folk claim that we were made in "Gods" image.

Lloyd Pye, who has a web site with pictures, gave a big clue with his work in the genetic field. All of the primates, of which we are closely related, have 48 chromosomes. We have only 46 Chromosomes. Lloyd has pictures of how our 2nd and 3rd chromosomes were combined to turn us into a 46 chromosome creation. This would likely be so that we would match our creators, so when they needed a heart a lung or some other part, we could fill the bill.

Also, in our genes are 223 non human genes. These must be the genes of our creators, they put them into us, to get a better match. Also, by inserting their genes into our genome, they have made us their children, so to speak.

Pye reveals that with all humans around the planet, we have this consistant picture of the exact nature in all of us. Though we vary by the ecology that we find ourselves in, in our genes we are all one. We are all the children of the "Gods."

When we can view each other as closely related to our makers, it may be hard to find people to do wrong to one another.

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Next Project Ozma and the "Secret" message to us from other worlds.

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Maybe I am just showing my ignorance, but why don't the "ETz" just come out in the open and tell it like it is? Why can the truth be supressed for so long? Are they trying to assimilate us to the thought of not being anthropic about the universe?

Are channels being open to our consciousness because these ET'z are not of a physical realm as we are? I always thought traveling in a physical body would have a limiting effect on traveling at the speed of light, gets kinda of messy on re-entry into normal time.

Does Dec. 21, 2012 at 11:18 AM GMT mean anything to these ET'z? :confused:
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If you had to attempt to convince someone of the existence and visits to Earth of ET's, what would you present as the most convincing generally accessible evidence (I'm talking about anything from well documented events which have no other, "eartly" explanation to convincing first-person accounts of encounters/sightings to non-ambiguous evidence of a government cover-up)?

Is there any connection between ET's and the assassinations/deathsof JFK, RFK, Malcolm X, John Lennon and/or Pope John Paul I? Is there an ET component of any kind to be considered in the case of 9/11 and the war on terror?

ET's have apparently not been rigorous in trying to prevent ordinary people from becoming aware of their existence -- so why don't they just reveal themselves unambiguously, so there is no doubt?

Do ET's have any communication with dolphins or other intelligent life on our planet, besides human berings?

Besides John Dean's book, are there any articles or books on the government's subterranean facilities which you'd recommend (not necessarily shocking revelations -- I'm interested in publicly available info as well). Are there any location names/keywords which might be useful in this context for searching the internet?

Thanks. THis is most interesting!
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