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Underlying Reasons For U.S. Government Shutdown - 17th October 2013, 06:16 PM

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“The greatest deception here is not ‘one nation under God.’ It never was. Had it been … the Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons. They go against God. … You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God, Lord Jesus Christ.”

– Dianne Reidy, a stenographer in the U.S. House of Representatives, speaking as she was escorted off the House floor during the vote to end the government shut-down and raise the federal debt ceiling.
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Oct 17, 2013 at 12:41 pm
She said: “He will not be mocked; He will not be mocked… don’t touch me… He will not be mocked. The greatest deception here is that this is not one nation under God, It never was. Had it been… it would not have been… No. It would not have been… the Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons… and go against God. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God, Lord Jesus.”

People are being forced under threat of the law to finance and therefore promote the ungodly acts of contraception, abortion and other things via this financing. Many of the foundational tenets of freemasonry are directly opposed to ones found in the Words of God and His Christ. Freemasons are therefore “sons of the devil”. She spoke the truth, and is now imprisoned for it. Eventually she shall receive justice from Almighty God, as will the ungodly.
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What do you think the reasons were for the U.S. government shutdown? Were some of the reasons religious?


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17th October 2013, 11:37 PM

Religion colours everything in US politics these days -- more so now, with the Tea Party, than ever before.

Read some of the comments made in what LK quoted -- there is no appeal to political process here, there is no concern for the welfare of human beings, none for respect for law or democracy, not a jot about balanced budgets. It's all about the need to "serve God," as if anybody could really know with certainty how that is to be accomplished -- or even whether God needs serving (I frankly doubt it).

I loathe and despise that sort of demagogue, religious conserative type. My handle should tell you everything you need to know about why that is. There is no concern for the welfare of others. There's no concern for forgiveness, openness, caring, love -- only "obedience to God."

And just to add my final punctuation mark to this little diatribe, "obedience to God" means "obedience to [my personal reading of] the Bible."

So all anybody need do to convince me otherwise is simply prove that:
  1. the Bible is actually the word of God, and
  2. only one interpretation of the Bible is possible.
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18th October 2013, 01:15 AM

I recently spoke to a conservative republican who has a lot of money. He thinks Obama is leading us in to socialism. He is avidly against Obama and the new healthcare. After my conversation with this person I was left with the impression that he was afraid his kingdom would crumble. He would no longer be the King who was over the little people. He didn't appear to be into equality. Therefore, I think the threat of socialism and more equal sharing of money is what is being fought, rather than just the healthcare plan itself.


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18th October 2013, 01:39 AM

LK, a measure of socialism is not so bad a thing, in my opinion. The communist notion of "to each according to his need, from each according to his gift" is essentially stupid because it will eventually lead everybody to complete dependence, with nobody doing anything to create the means to finance that dependence.

But that's not what moderate socialism does. Rather, socialism is kind of like an insurance policy that says, "we all pay something, and if one of us is struck by disaster, what we paid will cover it." The real difference between socialism and insurance is just that we have said for some things (health care, pensions, etc.) it's not exactly optional. But then, didn't we do that for auto insurance? So what's the big deal?


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18th October 2013, 01:47 AM

I personally think it's great, but for someone whose whole identity is wrapped around money and having more than others any kind of socialism is a threat.


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18th October 2013, 02:14 AM

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What do you think the reasons were for the U.S. government shutdown? Were some of the reasons religious?
I'm not sure who that Br Michael is but....that is almost incomprehensible drivel.

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Read some of the comments made in what LK quoted -- there is no appeal to political process here, there is no concern for the welfare of human beings, none for respect for law or democracy, not a jot about balanced budgets. It's all about the need to "serve God," as if anybody could really know with certainty how that is to be accomplished -- or even whether God needs serving (I frankly doubt it).

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What he said. The fact is, however, is that our government has forgotten who THEY serve, and it isn't god. It's juvenile behavior, the whole lot of them need to be fired, with no severance and no promise of any future funds. The only reason the conservatives are against Obamacare is because it's OBAMAcare. Several states have had a smaller version of the ACA for years, and no one pitched a fit over that.

The firing squad would be too good for them.


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I'm not sure who that Br Michael is but....that is almost incomprehensible drivel.



What he said. The fact is, however, is that our government has forgotten who THEY serve, and it isn't god. It's juvenile behavior, the whole lot of them need to be fired, with no severance and no promise of any future funds. The only reason the conservatives are against Obamacare is because it's OBAMAcare. Several states have had a smaller version of the ACA for years, and no one pitched a fit over that.

The firing squad would be too good for them.

There is one other unstated fact that no PC news organization has the guts to explore. You may have seen it in the 2008 election, but it really came to fore in the 2012 election. Namely...

The old conservative white guys don't want a "N" in the White House. I hear it "off the record" just about every day. And everything that the "N" does will be attacked and discredited at every opportunity. Oh, and those "other" people can just trot back across the border to Mexico, thank you very much.


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There is one other unstated fact that no PC news organization has the guts to explore. You may have seen it in the 2008 election, but it really came to fore in the 2012 election. Namely...

The old conservative white guys don't want a "N" in the White House. I hear it "off the record" just about every day. And everything that the "N" does will be attacked and discredited at every opportunity. Oh, and those "other" people can just trot back across the border to Mexico, thank you very much.


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Yessir. Even if we didn't know that to be true....do the math. Have you ever known ANY president as hated by congress as Obama is? And why? Give it a think, and there is only one answer.


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18th October 2013, 07:04 PM

It will be interesting to see if anything has been learned from this government shutdown and if some of the perpetrators will not be voted back into office.


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