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Lightkeeper 17th November 2006 09:47 PM

What Religion Does God Want Us To Follow?
 
Does God want us to follow a certain religion or any religion at all?

modus_tollens 17th November 2006 10:12 PM

Here's my answer from left field...

No sentence beginning with "GOD WANTS" is true. Allow me to explain.

God is complete in every possible way.

Wants arise from an incompleteness.

Therefore, God does not want.

To make it out that God wants something is to anthropomorphize it, i.e., turn God into a human. Humans have wants and needs but God does not.

Now let it begin everyone belonging to a religion disagree with me because they believe God would want everyone to be a part of the religion they belong to!

arthra 17th November 2006 10:30 PM

Only one religion of God...
 
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Originally Posted by Lightkeeper
Does God want us to follow a certain religion or any religion at all?

In my view there's only one religion of God and that one has been progressing over the ages and through various Prophets and Messengers of God. People have originally received it in the most remote past and before historical record and it was manifested in various cultural dressings and in various social contingences... because people were isolated from each other geographically and again by cultural differences they claimed ownership and fanality for it but were always succeeded by a progressively more developed form of the same religion...The spiritual core of the great religions is substantially the same with the outer ordinances and social teachings changing accordingly...

Humanity awakens to the realization that there is only one religion, "the changeless Faith of God, eternal in the past, eternal in the future"

- Art

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Madeline 17th November 2006 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightkeeper
Does God want us to follow a certain religion or any religion at all?

I might get eaten alive for this, but Christianity:D

John 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Love,
Madeline

modus_tollens 17th November 2006 11:54 PM

OK, let's assume for the moment that John accurately stenographed what Jesus said and that Jesus was correct...

Then which of the multitude of denominations of Christianity would God want us to follow, assuming futher, that God lacks and has desires, that God wants anything at all?

arthra 18th November 2006 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Madeline
I might get eaten alive for this, but Christianity:D

John 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Love,
Madeline

That's O.K. Madeline...you will not be eaten alive!

- Art

Madeline 18th November 2006 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by modus_tollens
OK, let's assume for the moment that John accurately stenographed what Jesus said and that Jesus was correct...

Then which of the multitude of denominations of Christianity would God want us to follow, assuming futher, that God lacks and has desires, that God wants anything at all?

I suppose the denominations that adhere to the fundamential doctrines of Christianity. Such as the deity of Christ, salvation by grace, the virgin birth, etc...

But yes God has desires, that desire is that nobody should be condemned.

2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing (desiring) that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Love,
Madeline

Panth 18th November 2006 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightkeeper
Does God want us to follow a certain religion or any religion at all?

Which one[s]?

I mean, there are literally thousands of gods being actively worshipped/followed/believed in right now, let alone how ever many may have fallen out of active deification.

Not to mention whatever more abstract, less anthropomorphised energy forms or ideals are also viewed as/referred to as "god."

evangelicalhumanist 18th November 2006 02:29 PM

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But yes God has desires, that desire is that nobody should be condemned.

Which always takes me back to my fundamental question for Christians and Muslims -- if God doesn't want anybody condemned, why did He make it so that the message describing how to avoid it was available directly to so few, and require blind belief for everybody else -- even assuming that the message reached them? I mean, wouldn't it be a truism to say that it is in the very nature of an all-powerful God that if He wants something, He can have it?

Now, to answer the original question: IF there is a God who created everything, and IF that creation led to the world as we know it today, then I rather suspect that said God would want us to cherish His creation as much as He must have to have created it. The notion that a God has any need of worship seems ludicrous to me.

The greatest playwrites, sculptors, composers, authors, inventors, medical researchers and others were not hoping that we would come and bow down before them -- they were hoping we would cherish the results of their labours. The great plays and works of art. The great music and books. The tools and devices and cures that have freed mankind from ceaseless toil, suffering and early death.

Yes, I suspect God would want us to cherish His creation, and forget about religious worship altogether, except insofar as it tends towards that goal.

Maybe that's why I'm a humanist (although I'm a secular one, with no god-belief per se).

arthra 18th November 2006 05:10 PM

"Which always takes me back to my fundamental question for Christians and Muslims -- if God doesn't want anybody condemned, why did He make it so that the message describing how to avoid it was available directly to so few, and require blind belief for everybody else -- even assuming that the message reached them?"

In your perspective I think you should consider that Judaism, Christianity and Islam all stress continuity of revelation over time... these religions have a historical orientation. Consider what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jocob means... it means a continuity. The Bible and Qur'an both stress how mankind is addressed through Adam, Noah/Nuh and so on. The Qur'an mentions Prophets Hud, Salih and Thamud...not mentioned in the Bible and so on...so the message is ongoing and continuous. In Baha'i Writings we have a statement that God never leaves mankind alone without guidance.

- Art


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