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Old 26th April 2007, 08:12 PM
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Where Are We Headed?

Treasure Mapping has become very popular lately. We have the book and movie "The Secret," Deepok Chopra, A Course In Miracles, etc. Many have jumped on the "Laws of Attraction" band wagon and claim that we are what we think about or we get what we thing about.

Is this the golden age for the New Age? Will atheism take a back seat? Where do you think we are headed philosophically and religiously?
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In the DEAR GOD section of my book, I polled questions from people who would want ask to GOD a question. Someone did ask GOD a question similiar to this.

Dear GOD,
Are we there yet? – sam

YOUR society is too concerned about "Are WE there yet?" when, as a society, you should BE concentrating on "Where do WE want to go?"


It doesn't necessarily answer this person's question but it does give him some insight to lend responsibilty towards a direction.
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Treasure Mapping has become very popular lately. We have the book and movie "The Secret," Deepok Chopra, A Course In Miracles, etc. Many have jumped on the "Laws of Attraction" band wagon and claim that we are what we think about or we get what we thing about.

Is this the golden age for the New Age? Will atheism take a back seat? Where do you think we are headed philosophically and religiously?

What is Treasure Mapping? I've not heard of that one.

The consensus among alot of those in the new spirituality movement is that there's definitely something going on and that it's leading to an evolution of consciousness unprecendented in history. There are different versions of how/what/when this will happen, but everyone pretty much agrees that the experience of being One with everything is a part of this new consciousness.
Some of the more common threads:
1. Time is accelerating - we've been developing along
a curve that has been multiplying exponentially in terms
of knowledge/technology/breakthroughs. The curve is
now going almost straight up. This corresponds with
channeled material that talks about time heading towards
a zero point, where time no longer exists and we will
live in the eternal "now."
2. The discoveries of quantum physics have shown what the
masters knew all along - we have a limited and relative
view of reality, and are really one with all things. We live
in a universe that is holographic, where consciousness is
the creative force behind matter. It's possible that we live
in many dimensions at the same time, even though our
focus on this dimension up to now has blinded us to the others.
3. The world is headed towards a global mentality, willingly
or through crisis. Both positive and negative events are
increasingly global vs. national. We have access to
instant world-wide communication. We're able to
travel into space and observe earth from "out there."
4. Thinning of the veil - there's been a big increase in near-death
experiences, OBE's, channeling, altered states of consciousness
(including the introduction of LSD in the 60's), UFO sitings,
people communicating with spirit guides,etc.

Even if one ignores the many prophecies and predictions over the past century or two, it does seem that there are parallel's between what is happening spiritually and what is happening outside in the world.

Personally, I do think this change is coming - it would seem to be the next step in our evolution. I just don't know what to make of the descriptions of some of the earth changes.
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Where are we heading.....

Upwards : )

Is this the golden age for the New Age?

New age - New thought - Maybe No thought?
jesus said take no thought to your body, what you shall eat or wear, do not worry and have no fear.
If thought creates the experience...who creates when I take no thought?


Will atheism take a back seat?

I don't think any belief will take a back seat. I don't think that one has to believe in a God in order to experience God or be one with God....we are.

Where do you think we are headed philosophically and religiously?

The gap will close between all belief systems, noone will be "wrong" or "right". Instead of seeing what separates us from each other, we will see in the future what we have in common : )
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I don't know where we are headed but I do know that when we get there it will be NOW.

We're not propelled or driven by the past. The present creates both the future and the past. We're not headed anywhere. We're already there.

Says me.
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What is Treasure Mapping? I've not heard of that one.

Treasure Mapping is just another word for positive imagery. You make a poster with pictures of things you want and hang it where you can see it.
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Treasure Mapping is just another word for positive imagery. You make a poster with pictures of things you want and hang it where you can see it.


never heard of it before. Intereseting concept.

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sounds like sygil magick to me. You make a symbol out of letters, the consonant letters with no repeats of each word you use in your statement of your will. For example; "It is my will to get a girlfriend". You would use the letters; tsmywlgrfnd, and arrange them however you want in some sort of symbol and then "charge" it by either an active ritual or simply placing it in view and waiting. Which I do believe "works" but am afraid to try because of the monkey's paw fear... I might get a girlfriend say, but she might be a nurse that I meet after falling off the roof. Ha.
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" We're not propelled or driven by the past. The present creates both the future and the past. We're not headed anywhere. We're already there."
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In a sense you are correct and there is more . In infinity there is no past and no future and no measurement to validate such things. We take a point in infinity and measure it to another point in infinity and the inbetween is the measurement we get . But these Earthly measurements only apply to our perception of time but in the whole picture there is no measurement of time without a beginning or an end .

In that sense you are correct that "now" is the only reality we can measure as our base of beginning or end however in the sequence of events through time one event follows the other and the "other" is relevent to the event prior because if the prior event hadn't happened the present event would not have happened so the past is as relevent or at minimum a precurser to now and the past is a valid part of now and what leads to now .
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" We're not propelled or driven by the past. The present creates both the future and the past. We're not headed anywhere. We're already there."
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In a sense you are correct and there is more . In infinity there is no past and no future and no measurement to validate such things. We take a point in infinity and measure it to another point in infinity and the inbetween is the measurement we get . But these Earthly measurements only apply to our perception of time but in the whole picture there is no measurement of time without a beginning or an end .

In that sense you are correct that "now" is the only reality we can measure as our base of beginning or end however in the sequence of events through time one event follows the other and the "other" is relevent to the event prior because if the prior event hadn't happened the present event would not have happened so the past is as relevent or at minimum a precurser to now and the past is a valid part of now and what leads to now .

This connection- making the past event a precursor to the present event is a connection that you're drawing, coming up with, linking, in your mind RIGHT NOW. Always in the now. Measurement of time is due to self-awareness. You know you're here and eventually you start counting how many 'ticks' you've been here. In this sense could you not imagine saying go! and counting Ooooonnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee forever? A begining sure but an end? And it would still be measuring time. Just one reeeeaaaalllly long 'tick'.

I don't know about that but I like think of it this way. You know how a speed boat motors along and a wake is created behind it? The wake does not drive or propell the boat. In this same way the present actually creates the past... and the past does not drive or even act as a precursor on the present. It is completely and totally created by the present as the wake of the boat is completely and totally created by the boat moving along.

If I know that tomorrow, in the future, I'm to be hung well I might act differently today, now, in the present... But does the future event, the hanging, really drive, or create my actions in the present? It hasn't even happened yet, it doesn't in any real sense exist does it? Other than present-moment expectation. So how can it drive the present... It doesn't- but the present does. The Present-Moment thinking, conceptualizing, imagining that I'm doing in my mind, CREATING the future event through present expectations is what's really driving my present actions- not the actual future because it actually doesn't exist.

I typed a lewis carroll poem on this line and then deleted it. The past action- the typing of the poem, is gone forever. It's not here. You cannot go back to it physically. You can remember it and make connections and conclusions and decisions based on your Present-Moment memory of it but it, the past, is not there. It's not there to do anything. To propell present events or anything. It does not actually exist in any real sense other than the present-moment memory of it. So in this way the present really does create the past. Doesn't it?
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