I saw this statement today. Is it true? What do you think?

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I can see some truth to the statement, if it means judging God from our own understanding (i.e. the ego's version of God). But when we're not pretending to be foolish humans, we can experience communion with God, as evidenced by the many masters and others who have tapped into a higher state of consciousness. Foolish as it may be (!), I'd rather get a few insights on the spiritual than be satisfied with the mortal.

" We are only foolish humans and we cannot possibly learn the mind of god and therefore are incompetent to judge god. "
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Sort of.

We can learn the mind of God if we are a suitable candidate for such an amazing event. Since we are in God's presentation we are God in a sense ,that we choose what we want, and we seem to know right from wrong, and we think as God would when we learn that God is real .

When all your life God gives you the reply "you know" to every question you ask God , you begin to feel as if God is real or you are quite schizophrenic .

This morning l said to my grown up daughter , " what a beautiful day to be schizophrenic ", but she didn't think that was funny .

We are not foolish Humans by any means but we are dealt a hand which includes Faith and this is troubling for many as many want the truth before they die and this is a valid request but because of un-forseen difficulties that God had not expected we cannot know until our arrival to where we are going after life .

If God wanted us all to know it would be so easy, so we must think of why would God have us live this way in Faith , when so easilly God could show us, and we would change from Faith to Fact .

If you really think of it , if we all knew God was 100% real ,things would change drastically on Earth and so on .

I agree with you Mooomooo.

To the original post/statement:

"We are only foolish humans and we cannot possibly learn the mind of god and therefore are incompetent to judge god"

I agree that we can not possibly learn of and hold the mind of God or else we would cease to be human. But what we can do is to ask God to fill our mind with "his" thoughts and "his" ideas. We then would recieve knowledge according to our understanding. I have experienced God's thoughts received change as I grew in awareness.

A book that helped me to understand God and my Self was "How to know God" by Deepak Chopra. He writes about the soul's Journey to oneness. I see that God is "I am being" in each one of us. The difference is only our awareness. "I am" can and is anything expressed or unexpressed, conscious or unconscious. To me the most important question I can ask is: What serves me? I can not change that which I am not aware of. Once aware, I have a choice and I am no longer a victim to circumstances. Therefore every "problem" we encounter serves a purpose and can be seen as an opportunity to grow spiritualy in awareness.

God is supposed to be infinate, and we are only finite creatures. How could we possibly understand something that we are not? I think we can understand parts of God, but not the whole. The whole is just to complex and foriegn for us to possibly understand completely.

In a way, I think that is one of the reasons we have the problems that we have. We hold portions of the knowledge, but not all of it, and human arrogance seems to prompt the attitude that "it's enough, to judge my fellow man". It makes little difference what religion we are talking about, the result seems to be pretty much the same.

The "I" that we think we are is not infinite. The "I" that we actually are is infinite. We are God. Not a part of... not in a way that we can (if we're lucky or hardworkers and try hard enough) experience "communion with" God... but actually, practically, completely, utterly... We ARE God. You're it!

I like that idea and so this would be my answer to this question.

I think the "we are ONLY foolish humans..." setiment comes from a heavy isolation feeling, from nature, from ourselves (MY body... MY mind... see the split?), from our ideas of "God", and is a reaction to the "we are the center of the universe" religious insanity that has come before it. Perhaps more appealing than that insanity but too far the other way and thus very unappealing to me.

I love suggesting to folks that I actually firmly believe that we, humans, and the other earth life, are the only life in the entire Universe... just to witness their surprise and almost shock at this very notion- we've been so trained to believe that we are nothing special since the dawn of modern science and it's anti-spiritual models.

This is called "down-syndrome" and it belittles humans instead of exalting themselves to the state of godhood where they are best realized. If one wants to K(NOW) GOD one is going to have to put the same emphasis, the same effort that they put fourth to get to K(NOW) thier other REALationships.

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I don't believe God has a mind, people have minds. God is a context in which the possibility of minds can emerge.

-TC

Interesting way of looking at it, Travis. I wonder, though...if all things are part of God, with God encompassing everything that is or will be, could it rather not be that there is simply no way that we, being a tiny part of that whole, can grasp the idea that there is a mind, and what that mind might be like? In this context, it would be like an amoeba in a pond, somehow with the ability to reason simply...to such a creature, he might be aware of other amoebas and perhaps of the pond or even beyond. But would he have the capacity to acknowledge or understand the complexity of the human brain and mind? A bit philosophical, but an interesting thought.