Who created God

God has no beginning and no end because God is unimaginable. The beginning and the end must be also unimaginable for an unimaginable item. The beginning and the end of the cosmic energy or space or the creation are also unimaginable. Therefore, the beginning and the end are unimaginable for the unimaginable item like God and also for the imaginable item like space. Therefore, the two points, which are the beginning-less and end-less characteristics cannot help you in understanding the real nature of God. If you start recognizing the God by simply these two points (beginning-less and end-less), you may think that God is an imaginable item like the space or energy or the creation. In fact based on these two characteristics people have imagined God as an imaginable item like space or energy or creation. This concept has misled people to such a low level that people think that God is the very infinite space or infinite energy or infinite creation. Therefore, one should filter the concept of God at this juncture itself. One should think that God has no beginning and no end because the beginning and the end of an unimaginable item are also unimaginable.

Such God desired to create this Universe for entertainment. The very desire itself is the Creation. In view of God this present materialized universe in only an idea or imagination or the very desire itself. Therefore, the desire to create the world is itself the desire and also the created world itself is a desire. Thus the creation, maintenance and dissolution of the imaginary world are also imaginations or desires. A part of this infinite creation is the individual soul. The soul is like a drop of the infinite ocean of imagination or desire of God. Thus, quantitatively the entire ocean of imagination of God is very huge compared to the tiny soul. Remember that both the Universe and the tiny soul are made of the same substance called as imagination or desire. Thus the force of the Universe is far greater than the force of the soul. Due to such huge quantitative difference of the same phase, the Universe, which is far stronger than the soul appears as a materialized entity for the soul. But this infinite ocean of desire, which is the infinite Universe is a tiny drop compared to the infinite force of God. Therefore, again due to the same quantitative difference of force the entire universe is just the very weak imagination from the view of God. Thus imagination and materialization exist simultaneously true from the point of God and soul.

For the sake of entertainment, God desired to create the Universe. This statement is in Veda (Sa dviteeya Maicchat). In this statement there is a very subtle intermediate stage, which is the essence of the desire to create the Universe. The desire to create the world is like the golden ornament but the essence of such desire is like the raw gold in which the ornament is not yet expressed. Such raw essence of the desire is pure awareness. The pure awareness is a special subtle form of energy, which is not qualified by any form. Such pure awareness is called as the spirit, which is not qualified and does not have any attribute. This is called as “Nirguna Brahman”, which means the pure awareness, which has no reference to the creation of the universe. It is a very critical and subtle point to recognize the pure awareness. Veda says that only very very sharp intelligence can grasp that critical state (Drushyate Tvagraya bhuddhya). Sankara, the topmost genius among the spiritual preachers could grasp that state and proposed the concept of Nirguna Brahman or non-qualified pure awareness. Such pure awareness is the first creation of God (Parabrahman). This first creation is almost as critical and unimaginable as the very Parabrahman itself. The only difference is that Parabrahman is absolutely unimaginable for any sharp intelligence, but this pure awareness is imaginable only for a very sharp intelligence. This pure awareness is called as Mula Prakriti or Suddha Sattvam or Mula Avidya or Mula Maya or the Spirit in general. The Parabrahman maintains such spirit and it is only an associated item and is the first created item. The word Mula means the first. This spirit is in the form of knowledge. It is aware of itself, which means that it is knowledge. Knowledge requires both subjective and objective characteristics. It is subject as well as the object. Therefore, it is called as knowledge or Sattvam. This knowledge is the first form of energy.

Energy is always active. Action is the characteristic of Rajas. Such Spirit is unaware of its own creator who is the God. Therefore, it is having ignorance or Tamas. Thus, the Knowledge itself is action and ignorance. According to Gita Knowledge is Sattvam (Sattvaat Sanjayate Jnanam), action is Rajas (Rajah Karmani) and Ignorance is Tamas (Tamastva Jnanajam). Thus these three qualities are always inseparable. The pure knowledge (Suddha Sattvam) itself is pure action (Suddha Rajas), which is the pure ignorance (Suddha Tamas). Thus in the very first instant itself the three qualities are created simultaneously in the purest state. Since all these three co-exist, it is called as equilibrium of the three qualities. When the equilibrium is disturbed various items of awareness result in which the three qualities exist in various proportions. Such disturbance of the equilibrium resulting in various distorted items of the three qualities is the very creation. The various mixtures of these three qualities constitute this diversified universe, which is meant for the play of the God and for His entertainment. When the entertainment is over all the three qualities go into the equilibrium state. Thus the Universe is converted into Mula Prakruti.

This whole post is one giant mishmash of non sequiturs.

And he does this on a whole host of other websites, to the express annoyance of many of them...

Every time I try to read any of this stuff, it feels as though he's managed to pick up on a lot of the words of others, but hasn't really figured out how they all fit together. There is no "whole," here -- no pattern, no discernable end or purpose. Just rambling about various concepts, and trying to link them together in ways that, while they might sound profound, are simply nonsense.

"Knowledge itself is action and ignorance..." bah!

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To be more precise, regarding the subject of the topic, let's just use the same logic.

What will you find if you walk due north from the north pole?

If a lake has no inlet or outlet, it never storms there and never has, there is no condensation, and there is no ground water in that place and never has been, where did the water come from?

What do you find when you go higher up than "up"?

The speed of light is a little over 186,000 miles per second in a vacuum. What is the speed of darkness?

How can something both be faster than "H*ll" and slower than "H*ll"?

How big is a "point"?

If you could only drive a car 100 yards before it died and could never be driven again, could you ever decide on how many miles per gallon it got?

If all thoughts are from electrochemical nerve responses, and everyone has them, why are not all thoughts the same for all people?



Simple answer to the title question...who created the creator, the alpha and the omega? No one. The question is flawed. It doesn't work to ask what began before everything began, as you are employing a double negative that causes a question that can never been answered.

There are some really great classes in logic that will show where the fallacies lie. And this is all along the lines of: a dog is an animal. a cat is an animal. therefore a dog is a cat. :confused:

" The speed of light is a little over 186,000 miles per second in a vacuum. What is the speed of darkness? "

Hey Rev Rex , you made me laugh , now get out .

lol

We all know when we use the vacuum, that vaccuming up flies can be an emotional event .
Flies are an amazing work of art and the little fly holds secrets and answers to the mystery and wonder of the speed of light

Rev. Rex;

Several statements of Veda clearly speak that God is completely unimaginable under any circumstances. Silence can only indicate God. Silence means that no word can be used to indicate God. In the creation every imaginable item has the specific name, which cannot be used for any other imaginable item. For example the word pot means only a particular object. The word cloth means another particular object. You cannot use one word for any other object. But God can enter any item of the creation. Therefore, the name of every item can be used to indicate God because there is no specific word for God, who is not at all a specific object. Even if God does not enter an item, the name of that item can be used to indicate God, because you are keeping that item as the representative of God. For example God never enters the inert planet like sun. But still Sun can represent God due to some similarities. God removes ignorance. Sun removes darkness. The lotus buds are opened by sun. The ignorant intelligence is also enlightened by God. Therefore, sun can represent God to some extent. Therefore, the word “sun” can also represent God.

Thus, in one extreme end no word can indicate God (Yato vachah-Veda). At another extreme end, the name of any item into which either God can enter or any item, which can represent God, can indicate God. All the prayers of God by thousand names (Shasra Nama) indicate God. When a word indicates God, it is the name of medium into which either God entered or which stands as representative God. This means you can experience God through a specific medium when God enters it. Alternatively you can also imagine the experience of existence of God through a representative item like sun. You can experience the existence of God through Lord Krishna because God entered and exists in the human body of Krishna. In case of sun you can imagine the existence of God through the properties of the sun. Thus, there is difference between the worship of human incarnation and worship of the representative item like sun, statue etc.

Veda says that you can worship sun as God, which means that sun is not directly God (Adityam Brahmaiti…Veda). There is difference between the direct worship of king and indirect worship of his photo. In both cases the king is pleased. But in the direct worship the king is extremely pleased because every bit of your service is experienced by king directly. When God enters the human body, God has not become the human body. God is in the human body. Therefore, the human body is not God. You can only experience God through human body. Therefore, by seeing the human body you have not seen God, but you have only experienced God through that human body. Therefore, God is invisible. Of course, a devotee can be satisfied by treating the human body as God and can feel satisfied that he has seen God. From this angle Veda says, “A blessed fellow has seen God” (Kaschit Dhirah…..).

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The Universe is infinite with unimaginable beginning and unimaginable end. This means the cause from which the Universe started and the same cause in which the Universe ends on dissolution is the unimaginable God. Mud is the beginning stage of the pot and also the end stage since the pot ends in the mud on destruction. The Universe exhibits the unimaginable God by its unimaginable limits of beginning and end. The space is generated from God and the dissolution of space can only show the real nature of its cause (God).

When the chain is dissolved in fire, then only the gold lump, which is the cause of the chain, appears in its original form. But even if you imagine for millions of years, you can never imagine the dissolution of space and therefore you can never imagine the original nature of God. God is beyond space and God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic.

Hence, God is a permanent wonder and the creation consists of some knowable regions of knowledge without any wonder and also some temporarily unimaginable regions with temporary wonder. Now the word Maya can be used for the wonder, which is both permanent (God) and which is temporary also (the deeper layers of the world up to the space).

I did this very thing when I was eleven years old.

Who created God?

Why does God need a creator? If for the sake of argument we accept that God was created by another Creator, then is there any religious scripture mentioning that Creator?

If God needed a Creator, then why didnot the Creator of God who definitely might be more powerful than God directly create this entire Universe ,why did He create God who than latter created the Universe?

When we start counting in the opposite direction ,starting from 9 , we end up at 0 and we cannot continue counting in the backward direction because we know nothing exists before "0", in the similar way ,every thing comes after God and if we start counting those things we will end up reaching God and nothing comes before Him.

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Parabrahman, the absolute God or the creator is beyond science and logic. Spirituality deals with the matters related to God. You may ask that how we can deal with the subject of God which is beyond logic? Such unimaginable creator enters an imaginable item of the creation and gives His experience to us. Therefore spirituality deals with such items of creation into which God entered. The medium into which the God entered is imaginable and can be discussed by logic. The medium has all its properties. But the medium also derives the properties of that absolute God by experiencing which, we can recognise the God in that medium. Ofcourse the properties of God are again certain selected properties of creation only. By the presence of God such selected properties become unimaginable. We say ‘God in flesh’ as per the Bible.

We also say ‘Manusheem Tanu Maasritam’ as per Gita. Both mean that God has entered the human body. The human body has all its natural properties like birth, death, hunger, thirst etc. But the property of the Soul is knowledge, which is the selected property. Knowledge is also the property of item of creation. Knowledge is the property of the Soul and Soul is the item of creation. When God enters the human body, He occupies the Soul. Therefore the property of the Soul, which is knowledge becomes unimaginable and wonderful. Spirituality deals with such divine Soul only. Such divine Soul is beyond science and cloning.

Such divine Soul like Lord Siva exhibited the process of cloning. Such divine human incarnation exhibits both the properties of the natural human body as well as unimaginable divinity of God. When Lord Siva created Veerabhadra from His hair all the anger of Lord Siva entered Veerabhadra. Characteristics are transferred and the same Soul in duplication as we can understand the cell division has entered Lord Veerabhadra. Devotees worship Lord Veerabhadra as the exact incarnation of Lord Siva. The present cloning about which you are astonished was already mentioned. People said that was unscientific and now say that it is scientific.