I saw this statement today. What do you think?

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I think it presumes an anthropomorphic Deity. I do not conceive of a Deity that has a want or need of anything let alone to define itself, or nor.

-TC

Well, for some reason the statement put me in mind of the work of Kurt Gödel, particularly the incompleteness theorems.

I'm a rank amateur when it comes to comprehending (let alone explaining) these theories, but I'm going to wing it: My interpretation of this problem is that a god would have vast but perennially incomplete knowledge of itself, for the simple reason that it's limited to the scope of its own influence. For instance, its "omniscience" would necessarily be limited to whatever it could see; its "omnipotence", limited to the realm in which it's capable of acting.

Can God Explain God?

For God to explain God, God would have to see God. The problem with that is that what we see is what we believe, not what we are. God IS, we ARE. The only explaination God could give is I am all that and that would still be limiting, considering all posibilities.

Now if one could accept that God IS, not more not less, we would have an explanation but we as human also try to understand what IS, and then come up with concepts/beliefs that are wrong or limited.

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However, appearantly we can not take His explaination, and still be alive. So the only thing He did explain to Moses was that He was, I am...

So, as some people have tried to explain God to me, as being the universe itself. Some people also even say that God doesn't even know that He exists. I can't understand their thinking, though. How could a creator not know that He exist?

How do the flowers grow? Even the God of Spring does not know! And if she did it would rather suck.

Explainations are for the reality of words... You can explain and explain the explaination and then explain the explaining of the explaination. If a physiologist explains to me in great detail just was is going on when we open and close our hands he still cannot open and close his hand any better than I can mine.

Suck? How so? Personally, I find explanations to be at least as fascinating as the phenomena that they explain.

Fortyone wrote: How do the flowers grow? Even the God of Spring does not know! And if she did it would rather suck


It kills the mystery. To be able to ask God to explain everything and to sit there carefuly noting each and every minute detail of each and every phenomena, and to at the end of the session stand up, sigh contently, and say, "Now I know everything. It has all been explained" would, to me, be absolutely horrid.

This is one thing that I meant by it would suck. Maybe you don't want to know everything, just certain things. Your favorite phenomena. These would be the least enjoyable to have explained in my opinion though. I'm not saying be ignorant. Ignorance is bliss and all of that. The sun provides energy, a process known as photsynthesis occurs, water and nutrients are needed, but to really really really know, from the lips of God the full explanation of all of this, would kill the beauty of flowers growing. The magic.

It's fun to learn how a magic trick is done but the trick will never affect you in the same way again once you've learned.

And as much as I can think of God as being this typical Master Creator God that is so beloved by millions, I can only think of "him" doing, acting, creating, anything only in the exact same way that I circulate my blood and grow my hair. I don't know how I do it but I do it. And the less I know about it, usually, the better I'm doing it. This is the other reason I said it would suck.

That might be because language is defectively dualistic. However, what God can do is transfer understanding that explains itself without language as well as give the best possible approximations of this understanding with language.

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If anything is possible, then the statement, "anything is possible," is possibly false.

" To be able to ask God to explain everything and to sit there carefuly noting each and every minute detail of each and every phenomena, and to at the end of the session stand up, sigh contently, and say, "Now I know everything. It has all been explained" would, to me, be absolutely horrid " .

--------We , even with communication with 'God' cannot know everything . We are alive and in motion and changing and to know everything as it changes continually is not possible . In 'infinity' there is no end which eliminates the goal , as to know everything would mean the goal of 'knowing everything' would be reached however since infinity includes no end our goal of knowing everything including infinity is not possible .

If you were in a communication session with God something led to that communication . Your need and God's need to communicate together was not by chance .

The reason for you and God to form a communication nexus , or connection would be the main ingredients of the communication and the rest that you learn from God will be limited to that and all related or associated elements would also have a role in the Wisdom you gain from God and you , once God communicates with you in this realm will give you enough knowledge to see the rest , but not everything ofcourse .