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Old 7th August 2007, 08:43 AM
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Be aware, an out law is at large

Be aware, an out law is at large,

Though not a bad mannered, though not a looter,
Though not a wicked,Though not a killer,
Yet he is a treacherous, Yet he is a swindler,
He may bereft you of the most precious holding,
Your religious complacency, your holy belonging,
Be aware of him, as he is a devil daring,
As he might be finished by the brave persons,
And they take themselves guards of heavens,

He says would not accept any born seniority,
By any one who so ever might be authority,
He says would the God **** other's childern?,
As when or where to born may not be their concern,
He says would take to task some or all,
Would face each community big or small.
He says that all holy laws are man made,
Which inequalize the humans on any base,
How religions can survive if all are equal?
Be aware as he is a threat to their survival.
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Old 7th August 2007, 01:56 PM
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Be aware, an out law is at large,

Though not a bad mannered, though not a looter,
Though not a wicked,Though not a killer,
Yet he is a treacherous, Yet he is a swindler,
He may bereft you of the most precious holding,
Your religious complacency, your holy belonging,
Be aware of him, as he is a devil daring,
As he might be finished by the brave persons,
And they take themselves guards of heavens,
If your most precious holding is religious complacency, then you are poor indeed.
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He says would not accept any born seniority,
By any one who so ever might be authority,
This outlaw you speak of may well accept some measure of seniority and authority from many, but not on their own "authority" for their authority. Many have claimed prophetic gifts, only to lead their followers to destruction. Show me real wisdom, and I will defer to it. Claim truths without foundation, and I will reject them.
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He says would the God **** other's childern?,
As when or where to born may not be their concern,
And a great question it is. Any who claim God would **** the children who have not heard this "truth" or that has forfeited all claim to being a prophet himself.
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He says would take to task some or all,
Would face each community big or small.
He says that all holy laws are man made,
Which inequalize the humans on any base,
Is it better to believe that God made this man to be served, these others to serve? Is it better to believe that God made some "chosen" and abandoned others? Could this really be "God?"
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How religions can survive if all are equal?
Be aware as he is a threat to their survival.
All religions are equal, because all religions have the same foundation and the same process of construction.

Will they survive?

Think back. It was asked on this forum many months ago if God needed religion. And the answer? The more wisdom one possesses, the less one requires "magical" explanations. Religion survives best in ignorance. Cast off our ignorance, and religion, which clothes it, will be cast off too.
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Well said

Thanks for your good and wise answering.
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Religion vs. religions

Does each religion have a separate God? Why they insist on special name or names for their God? Does God approve any language necessary to be prayed? Does not He know other languages? Does he approve only special manners to be prayed as different armies observe different orders for show off? Does religion not believe that the God is one, the God of universe and mankind?

The God is one but religions differ and they (God forbid) compel the God to be only their. Groups had/have been fighting for their separate identities and even for preferences including languages, races, nations, religions for the God to be their. Any one religion is not willing to share his so called God with any other religion and struggles to prove his claim. Each claims the God's preference. Each claims having God's authority or (God forbid) authority over God. Faith in the God including mercy, kindness, love, justice, brotherhood, fraternity and good social behaviors do not fulfill the need of having a separate religion so some or more additions, conditions and other specialties are necessary requirements. Religions require clergies to teach such specialties and clergies require specialties of concerned religion for their existence. How clergies can say that their can be any way out other than observance of such specialties?

All religions join such competition so separate additions, conditions, and other manners are included for keeping separate entities. Claims of superiorities are necessary to satisfy respective followers, so each religion claims having best additions, conditions. Places of worship, designs of worship places, manners/timings of worship, holy days/observance of such days, holy places/pilgrimage of such places, and traditions/observance of such traditions from birth to death and even names of individuals are kept different for maintaining religious differentiations. I know some clergies who insist on observing particular manners for eating, drinking, walking, sleeping, entering a building or coming out and many more. They also insist on related prayers for all such occasions to be learnt by heart. Religions must be different with different holy personalities for attaining blessings and for getting approvals for heaven.

Clergies of each religion claim that heaven or blessings of the God are only for their followers excluding all others, so this can be a perfect base for scuffles and also wars. Some where in holy books followers are admonished not to be friendly with others and they are motivated to wage holy wars against those who do not accept their God. I appreciate wisdom of all religion followers that they do not fight in spite of having such perfect bases of differentiations and live in peace on the principle of live and let live. Does this mean that they have turned hypocrites?
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To unite

To unite in the name of any religion,

To unite in the name of any nation,

To unite in the name of any region,

To unite in the name of co-operation,

Many claim it as in the name of God,

Definitely not, it is definitely not,

All it is, but for any selfish cause,

To unite to prosper, or for any mistaken path.

unite to struggle for the justice's sake,

To highten the love and lowering the hate,

Praise the God who blessed us with values great,

To defeat the evil and every good is humane.
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