Is this true?

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To me expereince is evidence for reason.

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I tend to think so. My evolution towards non-theism was very much a product of that kind of questioning. The vast majority of my life I was a theist, but I kept asking myself why I believed. I never really got a good answer, but I continued to try to force myself to believe anyway. Finally a few years ago, I realized that I was only fooling myself. The transition to non-theism, however, was quite traumatic to say the least.

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Vern

I'm convinced that people like this should get away from the books and the experts for a while and have a good roll in the hay. They need grounding.

Where is the rational proof of the simple "I love you?" Where is the rational proof of God's love? So we are forced to conclude that belief in love is irrational.

If George Smith wants to learn of logic, why not consult a Vulcan. It is their specialty

"After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true." Spock ~ 'Amok Time'

It seems to me that George Smith is suggesting that we all should prostrate ourselves before the altar of - not God, but Urizen....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urizen

It could be said (at least - by me ) that he's substituting one god for another.


Peace, Love, & Light

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Those who expect evidence/proof of that which can fulfiil every need by belief/faith are ignoring their own inner voice and sometimes, are not very happy people.

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Don

Great point, Don.


As for Smith's quote,
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....I guess one would have to dismiss alot of things following those guidelines. Is love rational? How about quantum physics? And who determines exactly what is rational vs. irrational? Why "condemn" anyone's beliefs?

"And who determines exactly what is rational vs. irrational? .... the "rational"...?


Peace, Love, & Light

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"An object is perceived, or not perceived, according as the mind is, or is not, tinged with the colour of the object. "
Patanjali - Sutra 4:17

Nature (which is to say human passion, brute ignorance, etc.) disposes.

I have heard this argument from time to time,* freqently from academics. I often suggest tha people who think this way read Tolkiens excellent, and too brief, story "Leaf: by Niggle" since it is more than an answer to this school of thought.

Of course, I am relatively sure that they don't read it and, if they did happen to read it, that they won't get it. But I think the advice is good...and since they won't change their minds, anyway, it's better to dismiss them with reference to a book they won't read than to waste my time arguing with them

As you get older, you learn.


"Be seeing you..."

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