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I wish the miracle would have worked the other way around. Can you imagine God/Gods feeding the poor with milk?

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Something strange certainly seemed to be happening, the milk was definitely going somewhere.

To put it down as "mass hysteria" is a ridiculous thing to say, at least the "being absorbed by the statues" shows more thought, although i would have thought that there is a limit to how much milk can be absorbed that rapidly....

It would have been interesting (in hind-sight) to have experimented with other liquids to see if they too were drunk or absorbed.

It ended - as the man who had the dream said it would - after 24 hours, it would be interesting to offer milk to the same statues now; if it's not absorbed, the important question would be : if the statue could absorb the milk then, why not now?

If the statues are ordinary stone - and the milk now offered is unconsumed, i must admit, i'd be thinking the 'miracle' word...

.... but it does seem a strange way for Ganesh to manifest his power....


Peace, Love, & Light

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"An object is perceived, or not perceived, according as the mind is, or is not, tinged with the colour of the object. "
Patanjali - Sutra 4:17

What a waste of milk.

At first sight I thought of a waste too. But looking beyond the appearance I see that there is a deeper meaning to this "miracle". I believe that ones belief could be that powerful to "create" a miracle. Can a belief cross the line between the seen and the unseen, the physical and the spiritual? If things can disappear (and it's not just a trick), then they can also appear. This could bring the end to hunger and poverty in this world. We need more believers and less doubters.

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But the miracle does work the other way, every day, twice a day, whenever milch kine come home to the byre...we call it "milking time". The gods provide through the agency of nature. If food fell from heaven upon the ground every night, or flocks of succulent quail settled ever evening just to hand, where you could reach out and cooks them, do you think anyone would believe one wit more than they do now? Would the disbelievers be silenced?

Not a bit.


How terribly smug and self-righteous this comment seems.

As if, of course, that milk does not go sour, never gets spilled, is not wasted in a thousand ways. I doubt any of these people are taking milk from their chidlren's mouths to do this..and, truly, how much waste is it, how much loss, for a few tablespoons of milk to be used in this way?

And how do you measure this totally insignificant loss of milk against the wonder thousands, perhaps millions of people had injected into their difficuly, dull or dreary lives? (Or, for that matter, the joy they may have gained in their materially secure but spiritually poor lives?)

Far too many people seem to want to stamp out wonder, joy and awe wherever they see it... I think they must have had unhappy childhoods.

"Be seeing you..."

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It certaintly wasn't free. More than a million litres of milk sold out within hours, doesn't sound like a few tablespoons of milk.


If only they could channel that amazing gullibility and spiritual wonderment into more productive schemes other than the capillaric action of statues.


Yes, and Santa Claus doesn't exist, either. Truth and reality have enough wonderment and awe without the need for gullibility and false miracles. A true miracle would be India and Pakistan accepting their brethren for who they are, or perhaps the Palestinians and Jews embracing each other in amazement at their own individuality and love of life.

But no, we get the Virgin Mary on toast and statues sipping milk. Excuse me while I fake shock and amazement.

... that would be divine intervention on a scale never before seen, quite apocalyptic, in fact. Casting a mountain into the sea would, quite, pale by comparison.

Sorry, I'm just not credulous enough to believe something like that could happen.

"Be seeing you..."

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I think that - rather than merely dismissing it out of hand, it would be more constructive if the circumstances were investigated.
Some of the idols were metal, if the effects can't be duplicated now it does raise some possible areas of research, in my opinion.


Peace, Love, & Light

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"An object is perceived, or not perceived, according as the mind is, or is not, tinged with the colour of the object. "
Patanjali - Sutra 4:17

....being reasonable and open, not pontificating from his random and and erratic grab-bag of beliefs.

That just doesn't sound like Asimov.

"Be seeing you..."

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Grassaf, Eolas