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Evolutionism, the odd man out.

I present You as factual evidence that God made everything that moves, including Humans. All Humans descended from Adam, the first Human. Science has NO idea How or When we inherited our Human Intelligence, but Moses knew, and told of it more than 3,000 years ago.

This evidence, which agrees with every true discovery of Science, History, is True to Scripture, and shows that Evols believers would Not be here, to post their ideas, if Noah had not brought Human Intelligence to this Planet of Apes. The fact that they can organize a thought, and type it into their computer, separates them from all other animals, and identifies them as "Human".

Mindless Evolution nor Uncaring Nature produced Human Intelligence. That's a lie and that's Evolutionism, the Evol Religion. No Un-Intelligent entity, nor Flawed Theory, ever produced anything. Jesus made it or it's Not here.


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I present You as factual evidence that God made everything that moves, including Humans. All Humans descended from Adam, the first Human. Science has NO idea How or When we inherited our Human Intelligence, but Moses knew, and told of it more than 3,000 years ago.

This evidence, which agrees with every true discovery of Science, History, is True to Scripture, and shows that Evols believers would Not be here, to post their ideas, if Noah had not brought Human Intelligence to this Planet of Apes. The fact that they can organize a thought, and type it into their computer, separates them from all other animals, and identifies them as "Human".

Mindless Evolution nor Uncaring Nature produced Human Intelligence. That's a lie and that's Evolutionism, the Evol Religion. No Un-Intelligent entity, nor Flawed Theory, ever produced anything. Jesus made it or it's Not here.


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Great, so produce this evidence.
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After some 4.53 Billion years, Evolution had Not produced even 1 Human Civilization. Suddenly, some 10,000 + - years ago, Noah arrived on this Planet Less than 100 miles south of the mountains of Ararat, the 1st evidences of Human Civilization are observed.

It is the land of Mesopotamia which contains this Earth's first Human Civilization. NO man could have told us that our 1st Civilization is traceable to Noah and his grandsons, but God told us this more than 3,000 years ago.

For years, Evols have searched in vain for a Human Civilization older than that which is written in Scripture. There is NONE, because Noah brought Human Intelligence and Civilization to this Planet, after their World was destroyed by Water.

Don't we find it coincidental that the Cradle of Civilization, the home of writing, math, and Civilization, on this Planet, is just South of the mountains of Ararat? God's Truth is the Truth in every way.

This, of course, means that Macro is a Lie and God's Holy Word is the Truth. We did not Evolve our Human Intelligence. We inherited it from Adam, exactly as God told us we did.

If Noah had not left his world and came to this Planet, we would still be innocent Apes, because, Evolution does NOT produce Humans. Human Intelligence must be inherited from another Human.


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Hello 4Pillars.

You said:
"All Humans descended from Adam, the first Human.", and then later said:
"This evidence, which agrees with every true discovery of Science, History, is True to Scripture, and shows that Evols believers would Not be here, to post their ideas, if Noah had not brought Human Intelligence to this Planet of Apes."

If i may ask, what sort of "Human Intelligence" did Adam (and his descendants) lack until the time of Noah?

In your next post, you say:
"This, of course, means that Macro is a Lie and God's Holy Word is the Truth. We did not Evolve our Human Intelligence. We inherited it from Adam, exactly as God told us we did.", and yet go on to say:
"If Noah had not left his world and came to this Planet, we would still be innocent Apes, because, Evolution does NOT produce Humans. Human Intelligence must be inherited from another Human."



I only ask because much archaeological research shows that we have been using symbolism for around 50,000 to 100,000 years.
For example, two pieces of ochre carved with abstract engravings were found in Blombos Cave, they are around 70,000 years old:
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Rather than being outlines of animals or other representations drawn from nature, the designs on the two pieces of ochre show a consistent representation of the development of arbitrary conventions to express mutually understood concepts. "They may have been constructed with symbolic intent, the meaning of which is now unknown," Henshilwood said.

"These finds demonstrate that ochre use in the Middle Stone Age was not exclusively utilitarian and, arguably, the transmission and sharing of the meaning of the engravings relied on fully syntactical language," he added.
http://www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/news/02/pr0202.htm
and there are several other examples from Europe and other places around the world, such as Asia:
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“Traveling with Bounhenang, we saw ample evidence of thousands of years—more than 10,000 years—of human prehistory at the edge and on closeby terrain of the Mekong River,” she recalls. “That much evidence, that quickly. It was astonishing.”
http://www.upenn.edu/researchatpenn/...e.php?1320&soc
Lake Mungo in Australia and the Sungir burials in Russia are other very early sites which have been well researched.

I realise that none of this denotes a civilisation, but abstract thought is considered - by many researchers - to denote a high degree of intelligence, and i - think you'll agree - these pre-date Noah by several thousands of years.

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Hello 4Pillars.

You said:
"All Humans descended from Adam, the first Human.", and then later said:
"This evidence, which agrees with every true discovery of Science, History, is True to Scripture, and shows that Evols believers would Not be here, to post their ideas, if Noah had not brought Human Intelligence to this Planet of Apes."

If i may ask, what sort of "Human Intelligence" did Adam (and his descendants) lack until the time of Noah?

In your next post, you say:
"This, of course, means that Macro is a Lie and God's Holy Word is the Truth. We did not Evolve our Human Intelligence. We inherited it from Adam, exactly as God told us we did.", and yet go on to say:
"If Noah had not left his world and came to this Planet, we would still be innocent Apes, because, Evolution does NOT produce Humans. Human Intelligence must be inherited from another Human."



I only ask because much archaeological research shows that we have been using symbolism for around 50,000 to 100,000 years.
For example, two pieces of ochre carved with abstract engravings were found in Blombos Cave, they are around 70,000 years old:

and there are several other examples from Europe and other places around the world, such as Asia:

Lake Mungo in Australia and the Sungir burials in Russia are other very early sites which have been well researched.

I realise that none of this denotes a civilisation, but abstract thought is considered - by many researchers - to denote a high degree of intelligence, and i - think you'll agree - these pre-date Noah by several thousands of years.

Edited to add:
Having real problems posting tidy urls nowadays.


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Dear hippy,

The sons of God (prehistoric man) were as high in intelligence as Nature could ever produce. The ability to produce offspring with Humans shows that we were made for each other, BUT the sons of God were Not Human. They are described by our scientist as "Apes" but sons of God by the Lord.

The 1st Human City was built by Cain on the 1st earth with NO preconditions, and virtually No evolution. When one possess Human Intelligence, he doesn't have to wait for Evolution for some 4 Million years, to built himself a home. After 4 Million + years, Evolution Never produced anyone who built a city.

Noah's grandsons produced Offspring who built the 1st Human Cities on this Planet (2nd). That's what happens when you combine the physical DNA of the sons of God (prehistoric man), with the Human Intelligence of Adam's descendants. We get today's Human Beings, and you don't have to wait for Millions of years to become Civilized.

Today's Humans contain the DNA of Mt Eve, a Prehistoric woman who lived some 150-200K years ago. We also contain the abiltiy to know good and evil, and we have a higher intelligence than Any other Creature.

How did we get this higher Intelligence? and When? History is clear. We began to build Human Civilization just AFTER Noah arrived, just south of the mountains of Ararat. Scripture and History agree, but Evols remain ignorant of the Truth.

City building is one of the Traits of Humans. Reading, Writing, Math, Geometry, and every other trait of Modern Humans began just South of the mountains of Ararat. God told us this some 3,000 years ago. One Day we will give Him proper respect. God's Truth is the Truth in Every way.

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The 1st Human City was built by Cain on the 1st earth with NO preconditions, and virtually No evolution.
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After some 4.53 Billion years, Evolution had Not produced even 1 Human Civilization. Suddenly, some 10,000 + - years ago, Noah arrived on this Planet Less than 100 miles south of the mountains of Ararat, the 1st evidences of Human Civilization are observed.

Please provide evidence that Noah existed.

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It is the land of Mesopotamia which contains this Earth's first Human Civilization. NO man could have told us that our 1st Civilization is traceable to Noah and his grandsons, but God told us this more than 3,000 years ago.

Please provide evidence that God exists, and told you that the first civilization is traceable to Noah.

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For years, Evols have searched in vain for a Human Civilization older than that which is written in Scripture. There is NONE, because Noah brought Human Intelligence and Civilization to this Planet, after their World was destroyed by Water.

Older than what? We have evidence of civilization beyond 10,000 years ago.

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Don't we find it coincidental that the Cradle of Civilization, the home of writing, math, and Civilization, on this Planet, is just South of the mountains of Ararat? God's Truth is the Truth in every way.

Perhaps you're just being obtuse, but there are five different possible cradles of civilization.

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This, of course, means that Macro is a Lie and God's Holy Word is the Truth. We did not Evolve our Human Intelligence. We inherited it from Adam, exactly as God told us we did.

Why would it mean that?

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If Noah had not left his world and came to this Planet, we would still be innocent Apes, because, Evolution does NOT produce Humans. Human Intelligence must be inherited from another Human.

Must it?
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Dear Asimov/Astreja,

Go to Northern Mesopotamia and dig. You will find Physical Evidence of Noah's arrival on this Earth. Would you have me do your homework for both of you?

I have waited in Vain for just One Godless Evol to produce evidence of How and When we changed from animal to Human Intelligence. No one has. Evolution is a Failed Theory. Quit teaching that we Evolved our Human Intelligence Naturally, since it is Nothing more than a False Assumption by heathens.

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When Jesus made the creatures, he made them in various "kinds", His kinds. No one knows His classification system except He, Himself. Some theorize that the kinds could be creeping, walking, crawling, flying, etc. kinds.

Micro is Descent with Modification, within His kinds.

Example: Cat's Family - A Lion (male) and a Tiger (female) producing a Giant "LIGER". See link -- Liger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's really amazing how the discovery of Science Today support the TRUTH of the Bible written many centuries ago -- Genesis 6:4 - the sons of God (prehistoric" beings or mankind) producing GIANT offsprings - Mighty Men of old, men renown - AFTER their union with the Daughters of Men, as documented in Genesis 6!!!

On the other hand, Macro-Evolution is a Lie from the pits of Hell and excludes God from His own Creation. No entirely different kind species can produce offspring together.

The fact that God continues to Create confuses those who believe wolf like ungulates evolved into Whales.

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