No doubt we are in "Information age" and in this period, the Science and Technology is much advance as compared to the past but unfortunately as the world is making progress in science, it is considering "science" as a perfect field and using it as a criterion to judge the facts and figures about the physical and meta-physical world.

Unfortunately the atheist community which fully depends on logic and scientific investigation and research and doesnot believe in any religious scripture also attempts to make such a mistake of trying to understand meta-physical world from science and technology.

To begin with, the field of 'Science', as I understand from the Encyclopedia Britannica, is limited to the study of the physical world only(any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation).

If this is correct, then obviously God, and all else that is not a part of the physical world, is beyond the scope of the study and the generalizations of 'science'. Thus, in other words, we may, on the basis of our 'scientific' knowledge, draw conclusions about any limitations on the working of a human being, but we cannot, through our 'scientific' knowledge set any limits on the working of non-physical beings, as the latter lie beyond the scope of 'science'. In my opinion, therefore, scientific laws can neither hinder nor limit the scope of working of the non-physical entities.

Moreover, according to religious belief, God is the originator and the creator of not only the material world, but also that of the scientific and natural laws that govern this material world. God, Himself, is not subject to and limited by these scientific and natural laws. In fact, what God is capable of doing is not only beyond the scope of science but may also be beyond the scope of the present level of human comprehension.

The secular and atheist community should understand that you cannot understand each and everything under the light of science because science itself is in the phase of further developments and changes.

As I have already stated the objection to the existance of God doesnot prove the non-existance of God.

I hope this helps,

It does not.

While it is true that science cannot "prove" the nonexistence of the preternatural, it is equally true that science cannot "prove" the nonexistence of an infinite set of problematic offerings. To the extent that your belief belongs to this set you render it immune to scientific inquiry. That may well be a source of relief and comfort, but it should hardly serve as a source of pride.

One of the better quotes emanating from this "secular and atheist community" comes from Stephen Roberts who wrote:

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

Rather than wasting time telling us that the nonexistence of your God(s) is unprovable, why not share with us the protocol or selection criteria that justifies accepting your construct as Deus and all others as delusion?

Shalom Jayhawker,

Welcome to this forum, I agree with your post and I know that majority of the
atheist deny the existance of God because of the discrepencies that exists in the different religious scriptures regarding the concept of God.

The concept of God defined in Islam is purely a monotheistic in nature and their is no compromise on it.

Every religion claims that its concept of God is true but one has to do an objective research on all these religions and than decide about it which religion has true concept of God.

Regards,

This is what test from God is all about, If their would have been only one true religion on earth, than everyone would have no problem accepting it but because of the presence of different religions in the world,it gives an opportunity for an individual to decide which religion is suitable for him or her.

So you admit that there is not "only one true religion on earth?" Then, of course, you would also say that there would be no punishment for believing in any religion, would you agree?

Then what could be the meaning of:

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You know nothing of the kind. The majority of atheists that I know do not deny the existence of God but, rather, deny that the arguments for the existence of are at all compelling.

To be dogmatic is not the same as being correct.

Claiming it a "test from God" is self-serving and worthless.

This could mean surrendering one God, whether you call it Allah, God, Jehovah, etc. It is most likely decryiing paganism and/or polytheism.

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And that's essentially why I am not a follower of the Abrahamic religions. Inasomuch as I have theistic tendencies, they're polytheistic rather than monotheistic.
Equally unfortunate: The "metaphysical" tends to be so subjective and cultural that it's difficult to come to any sort of agreement as to what is or is not valid in that context.

People of all beliefs -- And people with no particular beliefs, as well -- Occasionally experience mysterious events or sudden bursts of extreme emotion. Those experiences are real, but we all run into problems when trying to explain the significance of the experiences. There is a tendency to use the language of one's belief system or the system of the prevailing culture. Hence, a Christian may experience Jesus but I would see Guanyin; hear the voice of Oðinn or Freyja or Thor or Loki; or just choose to leave it as a mystery.

I agree that science is not particularly good at getting to the bottom of problems like this... But it's getting better. Not a "mistake" to keep trying to solve this quandary, not at all.

I said a true religion exists among other religions of the world and it is up to an individual to struggle and search for a true religion himself and his choice will be based on his own decision and this is what test from God is about.

If in this entire world their would have been only 1 true religion and non of the other religions existed then definitely all the people would have trusted that religion and believed in it and the concept of hell and heaven would not have been there.

No doubt different concepts of God are mentioned in different religions and it is upto you to find out which religion could be true.

In multiple choice questions, you have to choose a correct answer from multiple answers ,not all answers in it are correct.

If the concept of punishment is not their than how will the concept of evil and good, true and false exist?

I know their are certain people who reject the concept of punishment and the day of judgment to satisfy their desires but it is clearly mentioned in the Qur'an that it is nothing but their dream because day of judgment is unavoidable.

The concept of God mentioned in Islam is purely based on monotheism and their is no compromise on this concept. It is contrary to polytheism and according to the teachings of Islam the only true concept of God is monotheism because if their would have been more than 1 God, then the entire system of this world wouldnot have been working in perfect order.
Qur'an itself claims that the idols that you worship is nothing but your own made gods and how can that god help you that you have created yourself.


The appropriate way to understand God is to understand the existance of a Supreme Creator without which a perfect system in this Universe is not possible.

My question to you is that what alternate explanation can you present for the existance of our Universe if God is not behind it?


My other question is that how come the theory of evolution collapsed under modern scientific research if it was a fact?


other question how can you scientifically and logically prove that more than 1 gods can run the affairs of this entire Universe perfectly since each and every god will have His own will and offcourse God is not a robot that will follow the orders of others.

Please ponder and pay heed

I hope this helps