That's in part what I'm asking. Do you believe as such?

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Who said I was invalidating the "act of Creation"? I never said that or implied that, and I'm an non-theist-- not an atheist.







I am not and I was assuming no such thing.





Did I say I did? That would be quite "interesting" coming from a non-theist wouldn't it?






Well, if there's millions to billions of years that separates certain events, then I think one could properly use the word "delay". And it is certainly not in my mind only since this has been brought up by others as well. Maybe the concept that you see no delay is in "your mind only"?





Really? And exactly how are you certain of this? And exactly which "point of view" am I supposedly presenting in a "mind-numbing proportion"? I think you need to realize that I'm asking questions-- not making accusations.

And why such hostility in your post? It appears that you have me making accusatory statements whereas I certain haven't made any.

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"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge."-- Einstein

I would tend to agree with you. To me, the question of morality and its source is sort of like the chicken/egg question. Did a deity or deities establish a moral code or did people establish a moral code and assign the source to the deity(ies)? I certainly don't know the answer.

But what I have to drift towards is the idea that if the moral codes were divinely inspired, that this seemingly should have been done before the Abrahamics evolved and also in other locations other than just the Middle East. IOW, why would a loving God(s) not present moral codes to others?






I probably didn't word my questions properly since both you and EP seemingly misunderstood what I was attempting to do.

To me, what you posted above appears to make sense. As an anthropologist, what we have seen is not only our bodies that evolved but our cultures as well, and that certainly would include religion. In my classes, I would cover the evolution of religion without making any kind of judgements as to the validity or lack thereof or any specific religion or religion in general (btw, most of the time I taught the subject I was a theist-- although a very shaky one).

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"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge."-- Einstein