Death for what they believe in. I'd say it is very similar. Why would anyone be willing to die for what they believe in, unless what they believed in was true. Correct? Well, so many in different religions do and have done this in many shapes and forms. So, which way is the "true" way? Or is it that humans are just very stubborn people?

I wonder what the statistics are on the Koran, The upanishads, Baghavadgita, etc... Do you think that just because they were able to be copied successfully necessitates what is being copied to be true?

Jesus died 50 years before 80 AD, I find that not only alot of historical development, but human exxageration and literacy took place. If you have a hard time believing in any other gods, you will understand why I don't believe in yours.

Nice quote, but proves nothing.

Again nice quote, but still proves nothing.

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I agree with Ian. The bible was written by man. I've known that humans lie. I consider the bible to be a great work of literature. But I also agree that faith is just that. Faith. People believe the bible to be true and that's fine. I respect and admire Jesus as a mortal man who did great things in his life. Nothing more.

I don't immediately reject the idea that there once was a guy named Yeshua, the son of Joseph the (carpenter or stone mason or architect or whatever).

But apart from the fairy tales of the New Testament, there's nothing to prove that such a person was killed and resurrected. The fact that even Christians haven't been able to codify one only coherent version of how that guy died, what he said in the process, who went to look at his grave, who met those visitors, what happened to the massive boulder supposed to have closed the grave, well, you all know that there are tons of incredible, impossible and incoherent statements about just this one week of the supposed life of Yeshua Josephson.

If you mean that even a 1" by 1" fragment counts as an "early New Testament manuscript", I might believe you. Please try to give me some facts to support your claim.

"If the New Testament were a collection of secular writings" it might sell like the Harry Potter books, but it still takes faith to really believe in even one word of the utterly unproven claims.