In the "Why do you believe in god/s" thread. I asked Kane to expand on his claim for "evidence for jesus and his ressurrection." But it was too big of a topic to exist in that thread, so I made a thread precisely for it.

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There is no Evidence for God, as Paul remarked it is a matter of Faith. If anyone is looking for scientific empirical testing of God, forget. God exists in the Mind of Man. If there is an external reality of God, then God is keeping very quiet about it. It is for everyman to follow what his feelings tell him, a matter of Faith, and Faith only.


Ian

While I'll agree its impossible to conclusively know if God exists, there was one man 2000 years ago who did claim to be God. Lots of people claim to be god, but how many heal the sick, raise the dead, and die and leave an empty tomb three days later? How to you explain away the fact that Jesus left an empty tomb, and appeared to hundreds of people afterwards?

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I am the one, O Lord, who brought You there,
I am the heavy cross You had to bear,
I am the rope that bound You to the tree,
The whip, the nail, the hammer, and the spear,
The blood-stained crown of thorns You had to wear:
It was my sin, alas, it was for me. -Jacob Revius

My friend, you are relying on the words of men, and nobody really knows if what they wrote really happened. I would say not. who would believe in Jesus's message if he was merely son of man, but son of God, now that has impact.


I believe Jesus was a great teacher, but a mortal man.


Regards

Ian

Many ancient pagan and egyptian gods became man, walked on water, raised the dead, and were ressurrected.

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To believe in God is an act of faith...I can't usually see the wind either but I know it's there because I can feel it on my skin...God however I feel in my spirit. Water looks good and inviting even in the coldest of days but you don't know how cold it is till you touch it...God touches my heart. I DO believe in Jesus Christ and that He did and was everything the Bible says He is and was in the days He walked on earth and beyond His death and ressurection to this very day.

Proof to me that Jesus was born of a virgin through the Holy Spirit Is the fact that I believe the Bible...many are trying to prove His exsistence through more scientific means...such as the shroud of touran...but if it turns out that is a fake it will not weaken my faith. It only goes to show some well meaning person was trying to prove something it wasn't his/her place to prove. 4 Gospels atest to it as fact in their own way....it was prophesitied (sp?) in the old testament that a savior would come...John the Baptist knew instinctivly who it was by God telling his spirit when Jesus approached him for baptisim. Not all who walk the face of the earth will believe but all will stand one day before judgement for their beliefs or disbeliefs...perhaps I will stand their in a stupppor when God returns but until I'm proven HE didn't or doesn't exsist I will believe. I can't prove His exsistence anymore than you can prove He didn't exsist....given that fact
I don't demand you believe it as you don't demand I believe what you believe...It's ok if we agree to disagree...People always want PROOF...well...not everything in life works that way...My Spirit within me tells me all I need to know....No one has seen anyones spirit that is here on this board ...at least I might assume that...but we are all here to do one thing; share our beliefs and learn to be more accepting of those different than us in belief. We are never going to agree on all that is in life...but we must co-exsist so we are accepting and loving towards all our brothers and sisters here on this earth.

Peace be upon you,
smiles,

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Yet you'll read a history book and accept the "facts" with no problem when there is significantly less evidence supporting these, and considerably more documentation on Jesus.

What do you think the motives of these men were? The majority all went to their death for beliefs.



If your talking about Osiris and Horus, at least half, if not more, of the similarities are bogus. Please present evidence otherwise.

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I am the one, O Lord, who brought You there,
I am the heavy cross You had to bear,
I am the rope that bound You to the tree,
The whip, the nail, the hammer, and the spear,
The blood-stained crown of thorns You had to wear:
It was my sin, alas, it was for me. -Jacob Revius

Those that went to their death were forbidden to build on the foundations of Jesus. Jesus informed his disciples and he warned them about those that would build churches in his name. He said

You are God’s field, God’s building. By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building upon it. But each one should be careful how he builds. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to the light. 1 Cor: 3 9-12

Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples asked him to call his attention to the buildings. “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “I tell you the truth, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down. Matt: 24:1-2


Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall and do see God.

Love beyond measure

Kim xx

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it is difficult to offer up evidence for the existance of G-d that can be easily quantified. This is why it falls under the realm of belief.

although, personally, i think the existance of the Jewish people is proof that He is there

...unless you want to say it's all a great zionist banking conspiracy

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You forgot Mithra, Krishna, Apollo, Diana, Bacchus, Saturn, Aizen-Myu, Amaterasu, and countless other gods and goddesses that are able to perform miracles of many different kinds. If you don't believe in any one of those gods, you will understand why I don't believe in yours.

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