Yes, but why, exactly, do we sometimes do things that we know to be wrong?

My hypothesis is that there's something in the "wrong" action that we consider "right". Perhaps not in the sense of morality, per se, but a personal need or want that is seeking fulfilment. To reconcile the behaviour with the conscious beliefs, these things have to be addressed.

Yes, and I've addressed that before. We have evolved a very conflicted nature. Because we are a social species, dependent upon others for our very survival, we have developed social cooperative modes and altruism. Otherwise, the social supports we require might not be there. But because we are also thinking, reasoning individuals, with needs and desires of our own, those sometimes override the socially cooperative, altruistic modes.

Because these two are in conflict, giving in to private desires at the expense of social cooperation "feels" wrong because it is in conflict with built-in parts of our very nature.

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I am a wee bit confused this am reading the posts....When i...post about people living there lives making there way being emotionally driven....

EH responds:

what I am reading is that would be utter chaos and problematic...

Astreja...posting what I read as emotional based responses for what are behaviors are..why we end up making our choices...


Rev. Kelly also acknowledging humans being emotionally driven...

it is what I see as much circular talk yet again...many who read this series of posts would use much of our posting and change many words...to ...ego...to subconscious behavior...to learned behavior...need to be right...etc...I started this here saying many words...well many words are not coming to me at this moment...but I think the point is there is numerous ways we label....I stand my ground for now less someone can show me other wise...that humans are emotionally driven...this is how there choices are made..and when we do what is socially necessary for a time...and it is depleting us of our own need our own shortage somewhere...behavior will show up to confirm the shortage...often the shortage is not known...by an observer or the person suffering the shortage....but the behavior now catches up to show there is or has been a lacking...and I think no one escapes this...it seems to be part of the lesson plan here

emotion / logic
yin / yang

Some people are more emotional and others are more logical.
Swing the pendulum too far in either direction and you have an unbalanced psyche.
We are driven by emotions, but then reason kicks in ( could call that our conscience) and says that the thing we feel like doing could have negative repercussions so we repress that emotion or channel it in another direction.
The trick is too find the happy medium so that one is not overly logical like a Spock, or overly emotional.
It's all a question of balance.

Agreed. It's all about balance.

this seems to be something i think all will agree with....it being balance....NOW...is there anyone dare say that is not it...or argue there is more to it then that...WELL.... going for the count ...

Yeh, me. Emotions are reactions and logic is subjective. Better is to rise above both or leave both (duality) behind : )

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oh ...leave it to you ..lol ..action and reaction..stir emotion....I think stages are necessary to rise above both...i dont think we can reach anything..anywhere knowledge understanding growth...with out going through the process of steps...everyones ladder being built a little different...when you see the ocean for the very first time...there are no words or education or pictures that could describe this so one can fully comprehend it...and it seems like the learning on a scale of the balance is where the answer lies...as it has been mentioned many times...the pendulum swings way right and way left...that middle ground...learning to learn from all others and finding what we have in common instead of the differences...and move forward...I believe in what you say..and your happiness ..and i appreciate your trying to express and share as anyone who reaches a state of wow..and knowing there are some lessons others really would not need to pass through should they be able to hear with depth...and trust a go out on a limb and just believe...some things in life you really can take chances on and it wont hurt you any...you really may shake your head after and say not for me...i wish more would climb out of the box and be...thanks for being Vivian....