The Sacrifice Of Jesus and Animals

[cardero]

Often we hear religious people proclaim that Jesus died for us or that he offered His life in an exchange for the way humankind has sinned.

What does the death and sacrifice of Jesus hold for animals?

Are animals excluded from this plan on the assumption that they are not required to believe or may not behave in a manner that would be considered by humans to be sinful or immoral?

BONUS QUESTION: What of the significance of animals who offer their lives so that humans can thrive and survive? Are they deserving of the same kind of importance as Jesus or the same worship that some attribute to the Son Of God? What would be the difference in such a sacrifice?

[arthra]

Originally Posted by cardero

Often we hear religious people proclaim that Jesus died for us or that he offered His life in an exchange for the way humankind has sinned.

What does the death and sacrifice of Jesus hold for animals?

Are animals excluded from this plan on the assumption that they are not required to believe or may not behave in a manner that would be considered by humans to be sinful or immoral?

BONUS QUESTION: What of the significance of animals who offer their lives so that humans can thrive and survive? Are they deserving of the same kind of importance as Jesus or the same worship that some attribute to the Son Of God? What would be the difference in such a sacrifice?

My understanding is that for early Christians Jesus crucifixion... His sacrifice was the atonement for their sins...hence they no longer needed to sacrifice animals...doves.. cattle or whatever in the Temple. You'll recall that Jesus drove out those selling animals to the worshippers for sacrifices (and don't forget the money changers!) from the precincts of the Temple...this rejection of the sacrificial system of the Temple was enough to also make Him a target of the establishment.

Also you may recall that the Lord Buddha likewise opposed using animals for sacrifice in the ancient Vedic system of worship!

- Art

[mooomooo]

Good questions cardero .... .....

Believe it or not,,, there are valid true answers which includes us ,what we eat and yes God ,,, and more and what happened to Jesus is a major part of it , and it all .

[mooomooo]

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My little dog Mooskee died and went to Puppy Paradise in Heaven . He told me in a communication system so sort of simple yet beyond belief and 'conceived' not by Man , but by my dog 'Mooskee' .

Yes cardero there is much more to animals...., then us eating them .

Surely there must be more.., yes ?

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[mooomooo]

"But Jesus's High Profile Healings were not of God or Jesus ,,, as Benny Hinn and Peter Popoff's are ."

When Benny Hinn and Peter Popoff state that their Healings are from God , we the people and we the Government do not question it and when they demonstrate their Spiritual and Faith Healings we do not "arrest" them and take them as a "threat" ,,
as they did with Jesus .

Watching Jesus Heal , the Government wanted to know "HOW" Jesus did it and not just WATCH Jesus do it but they wanted to know more than just,,,, " God did it" ,, they wanted to do it 'themselves' ,,

and Jesus was about to show them what He knew when God Himself had to stop Jesus ,, and God did this by telling Jesus the Truth, of how He Healed .


And of course Jesus then asked God ,,

What was it then that did the Healings , Lord ?

And then God told Jesus , and Jesus died before He ever told anyone , and Jesus " died " because He knew HOW the Healings were done and this knowledge , as weird as this is presenting now , has been kept in the "unknown" realms of Healing ever since .

......,

[Astreja]

I once heard an intriguing hypothesis that the purpose of the crucifixion was to point out the absurdity in sacrifice itself -- In effect, abolishing the practice for all time. (Darned if I can remember where I heard that, though.)

Originally Posted by arthra

Also you may recall that the Lord Buddha likewise opposed using animals for sacrifice in the ancient Vedic system of worship!

I've heard that, too. There was even a lamb involved in the story: A precursor to the "Good Shepherd" story?

[mooomooo]

Hi Astreja .

Your good self stated,,,

---> '' I once heard an intriguing hypothesis that the purpose of the crucifixion was to point out the absurdity in sacrifice itself -- In effect, abolishing the practice for all time '' <----

Astreja , just about everything is absurd , now and before , however we progress our absurdities into collective acceptable 'norms' leaving the defined realities of the 'not collectively defined absurdities,, to Faith .

This means our Lord doesn't care what you believe from anything to anything , as long as you dont know the extended Truth , as Jesus found out .

[mooomooo]

............. cardero ............

When we die and go to Heaven do we apologize to the chickens and invite them for dinner ?

And.. and... no that's enough for now lol .

[cardero]

Originally Posted by mooomooo

............. cardero ............

When we die and go to Heaven do we apologize to the chickens and invite them for dinner ?

And.. and... no that's enough for now lol .

I encourage the belief that those souls who incarnate into a animal experience and are used for food establish this purpose in the spiritual realm before taking on a physical existence.

[metis]

To us today, the thought of animal sacrifice sounds so bloodthirsty, but was it? If people understood the sacrificial process, it would only be so to a vegetarian. The idea behind it was to give back a bit of what God had given us. However, let's look at what actually was done.

First of all, the animal was slaughtered in a manner according to Jewish Law whereas the animal would probably feel little to no pain (a quick slice across the neck cutting the carotid artery whereas the animal would lose consciousness in about 1/2 a second we are told). Then the animal was drained of as much blood as possible and the blood was sprinkled on the alter. The meat, however, was cooked, eaten by the Temple priests, and the rest was distributed to the poor.

So, unless one is a vegetarian, what's the problem?