well Nick...I have no idea what this is...(PC secular summary)...and i am tired...and right now i dont really care...i feel like you have made us your science project ..dont know that is your intent..but is some what from your posts you have but said that...i feel like reading the posts...a hamster in a ball..or gerbil on a wheel...and if all i have done is read it and it makes like a repitive craze...then for gosh sakes how can your existence have any calm...and if there is truth to our oneness ...i hope for all of our sake that the light will soon shine on you....if you do this to a room full of people...i think but for a few who do not have the ability to be healthy in there head...they will get up and walk away from you...and that sir..i think will be a huge disrespect for your friend...Simon...what i can find peace in ..is i do believe with all my being...that even though you seem to be traveling a rough road...it to leads to home...but now i must move on and i think as octavius has said..perhaps this should be closed ...for the drain on the energy that could be healing and helping is being burned in a hamster wheel....and you know what..it must have needed to be...good night Nick...oh it is not always about being happy..and saying what feels good..but being mindful...and you i think can have peace even when your not happy...niters...may what ever is working in this universe be with you...and us..that we may move on....in a healthy way...

Sendy


Yes, this is a natural modern reaction. Asking sincere but unpleasant questions that make people think is taken as a "science project." Understanding the nature of questions includes experiencing their rejection which is considered an offensive thing to do.


Sincere questions do not agitate me but they do others. Must people become agitated at disturbing questions. It possible to be calm while experiencing them? It is the goal of apatheia or conscious emotional neutrality to do just that. Granted it is rare but it is still possible and accomplished by some.


She would be more saddened as to how much more modern humanity has closed off to reality. She had the audacity to live her philosophy which is not something polite people do. So even though philosophy taught human compassion, when she as a teacher marched with unemployed hungry workers she was fired which she of course expected. Image cannot be sacrificed for reality.


Rejection by the majority is the norm for anything that admits to and examines human hypocrisy. Jesus, Buddha, Socrates, and others all said it and they are right.

To be healthy in ones head in modern times is defined by secularism as the ability to accept hypocrisy at the expense of the normal growth in ones being from becoming consciously aware of it and what it denies human "being."

Even this secular idea of oneness or without any concept of levels of reality, prohibits even the open contemplation of metaxu which at least makes it sensible.


Yes, it is time to go completely to sleep without any thought of awakening to the "good." It is the pleasant thing to do.


This of course is most offensive to the secular mindset that doesn't distinguish the secular mindset within the cave from the transcendent mindset which seeks freedom from the cave. The distinction must be preserved and regardless of the pull of secular attachment, those that are aware of the human condition cannot sacrifice it for secular attachments. The sword represents the necessary respect for this division.

Simone is one of those rare individuals in modern times who through her life and ideas makes the distinction between the secular and the sacred clear and the necessity for those that begin to feel what is lost of human potential through denial of the human condition not sacrifice it to the imagined benefits of modern secularism including the fantasy that we could collectively produce other than what we are.


I side with those willing to sacrifice the peace of escapism for the need to awaken in pursuit of "meaning" or "objective good."


I believe there is a minority capable of this choice and dominant secular society is unconsciously doing whatever it can to kill this impulse to move beyond the goal of conditioned pleasant dreams especially in the young.

If I can help making the choice clear, It is the ethical thing to do regardless of the expected secular growls. This thread has helped me see how intense they can be.