There's some fascinating research in instrumental transcommunication which might suggest we could learn something from the "dead." Cardoso's communications with Timestream are particularly interesting:
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have a good one, earl

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"My God...just think about it: No one will ever experience "death". In order to experience anything you have to be conscious....but if you are "dead" you are without conscious and should consciousness survive "death".....we aren't dead."

am loving it!

Hey Earl! Welcome to the forum : )

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Thanks for the welcome but am not entirely new here, just hadn't stopped by in awhile & when I did the system wouldn't let me log in. So had to re-register. Needless to say I find the descriptions of how reality is on the other side by Timestream broadcasters fascinating. I haven't seen that website I noted post any further messages beyond 2002 and don't know if they still "tune in," but would love to hear more from the "outer limits." After all, if you can't trust the word of the dead, who can you trust? If this work were more widely known and taken seriously it undoubtedly would have a profound effect on worldviews, religious and anti-religious. Earl

In my (Baha'i) Faith.. we believe that death is like a transition to the spiritual worlds... just as the fetus in the womb that receives all its food and oxygen from the umbilicus and if it could express it's feelings about having to have the umbilical cord severed...so many of us are afraid of death and what will come later. But as the new born soon discovers life is a different plane and dimension so we too will soon discover this...

There is no physical body to worry about in the spiritual worlds in my belief.

- Art

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Frankly, the theories that science has to explain NDE's (as well as other questions of consciousness) don't impress me nearly as much as the first hand accounts of people who've actually experienced them.

My perspective on Death is somewhat skewed. I have conscious recall of other lives. Yes, I believe in what is called re-incarnation. However, you can’t attach any eastern philosophical interpretations to how I interpret it. I don’t hold it as a ‘belief’ or on ‘faith’. I know with absolute certainty some of my incarnations. Others are sort of on the shelf. All the information and experiences are present, but think of them as DVD’s, only available when accessed specifically. This is how I am still just me. I don’t want to re-live the life as a native, or as a Celt, or as a Roman. That would be rather hard to do living in America. Each life stands on its own, and is incredibly precious to me in that way.

To me, Death is a transition to our natural form. We are, after all, ‘dead’ more often than ‘alive’. This implies we are immortal in that regard, or the Soul is immortal. So if you ponder for a minute, one might consider a birth as the death of Spirit and Birth of Flesh. Therefore a Death is merely the Birth of Spirit and the Death of Flesh? Or more Correctly: Death is the Re-Birth of Spirit (form) and the Re-Death of Flesh (form).

I think the major issue about death is all the miss-information. Death involves all the horror stories told to us by religions. Or fears of suffering some penalty for some supposed wrong. Let me ask you this, if ‘heaven’ is so great, why do we always come back here? Is BEing on Earth so great, that we willingly put up with all the limitations every time we come here? Do we wait in line to come here? There are what, 7 Billion people on Earth right now, and there were what, less than 50 million 2000 years ago, ponder the implications or turnaround times? And ‘when’ do we die? Well, in my experience, we transition when we choose to, and not a moment before. Ponder that…

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Rastus, you say that you know with absolute certainty some of your reincarnations, but do you know with certainty the source of your "knowing"? Is this knowing truly a remembering or information you are tapping into?

See, I used to believe in reincarnation too. I "know" what it feels like to walk on water. Does that mean that I was Jesus in a previous life or could it be that the energy/consciousness of everyone that has ever walked this plane still exists?

Since I have realized that there is only one spirit...how can there be individual "souls"?

Do you see what I mean?

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Another interesting theoretical way to look at "reincarnation" memories. Fun to speculate about things metaphysical though I am doubtful that whatever the human mind can conceive really tells the tale. As to that spirit-soul issue-my view is "soul" is individualized or ("self"-identified consciousness) spirit. We have "one life force" and mutlitutdes of specific life forms to use an analogy. While a wonderful age-old koan-"who realizes this?"- "you" did realize this "one spirit." earl

They say 60 is the new 40.

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