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Originally Posted by Lightkeeper
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Do Aquinas and Maydole prove the existence of God?
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Not at all. I have quite thoroughly read Aquinas and what he presents is a philosophical model of what he referred to as "the immoveable mover" (God). His essential arguement is that there must have been something that causes all but has no cause in and of itself. That sounds nice, but it simply doesn't stand up to even elementary scrutiny.
One problem is that the premise violates itself in stating that everything must have a cause but God doesn't. How is that even remotely logical? If ALL must have been caused then ALL must have a cause-- including God. To state that God has no cause violates the entire premise.
So what caused all? In science, as I mentioned on another thread, we work on the basis of evidence. What evidence do we have of a theistic cause? Even though some people have a rather vivid imagination, the reality is that most admit that we cannot accept God or Gods on the basis of objective evidence, but only through faith. With faith, evidence is simply not needed.
So, if there is/are no creator-god(s), what could have caused our universe? It is at least concievably possible that matter/energy could have existed back into infinity and may exist forward into infinity. And, by their nature, energy/matter are always in a state of change according to the evidence we actually can see. IOW, everything appears to change-- nothing appears to stay the same. Our universe may well be part of a multiverse, the natures of which go back into infinity with no ultimate "beginning".
Does the above somehow "prove" there is/are no god/gods? Of course not. Therefore, all possibilities should remain open.