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Old 18th August 2008, 07:48 AM
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I don't think homosexuality is a sin and I agree with Amergin that it has nothing to do with atheism. I also agree with Amergin that homosexuality is biological but I wouldn't exactly call it a malfunction. It could even be a good thing. They don't reproduce so they don't contribute to over population and since many of them have the desire to have children then we have people to take care of orphans. If it is a malfunction then I would expect them to be a problem for society. I see no problem so I don't see a malfunction.
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Perhaps it would be better to define the meaning of sin before choosing to consider and condemn or approve of certain behaviour of any sort ?
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Perhaps it would be better to define the meaning of sin before choosing to consider and condemn or approve of certain behaviour of any sort ?

Sin: Harming others without justification.
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Sin: Harming others without justification.

That is a good definition.

I would like to define "sin" simply as "harming others", but this would lead to a multitude of "what if" questions, concerning highly improbable circumstances with an unimaginable amount of moral dilemmas, so for simplicity's sake i'll go along with your definition.




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Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)

" 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Yes the practice of homosexuality is a sin
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Old 19th August 2008, 03:43 PM
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Yes the practice of homosexuality is a sin

By Biblical standards, yes it is. However, not all necessarily believe in Biblical inerrancy, nor do all consider the Bible to be divinely inspired.

To me, since the research is indicating that most homosexuals appear to have the genetic composition that inclines to send them in that direction, I have to wonder that, if there's a God, why would He make people as such but then tell them not to do what would be very natural for them to do?
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By Biblical standards, yes it is. However, not all necessarily believe in Biblical inerrancy, nor do all consider the Bible to be divinely inspired.

To me, since the research is indicating that most homosexuals appear to have the genetic composition that inclines to send them in that direction, I have to wonder that, if there's a God, why would He make people as such but then tell them not to do what would be very natural for them to do?

well I dont have all the answers I dont know why God does what he does.

the Pastor in my local Church says that it is not that we are against homosexuals but we believe that it is wisdom to keep sex within marriage and between men and women.

IMO if homosexuals come to Jesus confess and repent then they can be saved and cleansed of their sins.
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well I dont have all the answers I dont know why God does what he does.

the Pastor in my local Church says that it is not that we are against homosexuals but we believe that it is wisdom to keep sex within marriage and between men and women.

IMO if homosexuals come to Jesus confess and repent then they can be saved and cleansed of their sins.
I think in issues like this it is very important to come to your own conclusions rather than to follow what someone else might say.

It has been stated that there was no concept of homosexuality in Biblical times. The term was first coined in the mid 1800's A.D. In Biblical times it was thought that it was heterosexuals who were taking part in same sex activities. At that time it was an abomination to waste "seed" as it was needed to increase the population.

Now that we know homosexuality is an orientation most likely with biological causes, we need to rethink the situation. Also the world is over populated and "seed" doesn't have the importance it once did.

This is why it is so important to study the times of scripture. What did they know, what were they thinking, what were there needs?

A pastor perpetuating a myth is way more dangerous than a person with an orientation trying to love another person and find some happiness.
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well I dont have all the answers I dont know why God does what he does.

the Pastor in my local Church says that it is not that we are against homosexuals but we believe that it is wisdom to keep sex within marriage and between men and women.

IMO if homosexuals come to Jesus confess and repent then they can be saved and cleansed of their sins.

As metis says, the research is pointing to homosexuality as being a genetic trait, rather than a sexual preference.

If this is indeed the case, it appears to me that if a God created humankind with that trait embedded in their genetic make-up, then It must have designed the trait Itself.

For anyone to then claim that to be homosexual is to go against said God's wishes is itself going against the God's wishes, in my opinion.



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