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Old 20th August 2008, 02:36 PM
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Since it is an impossibility the mark is to high and therefore God's standards are to high. It would be like if our laws were designed to make everyone criminals.
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I think sin is being caught up in and identifying with your beliefs and thoughts. This causes a separation from God. If we transcend the beliefs and thoughts we allow space. God is that space. At that point we would be beyond sin.
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So

If we are flesh then we can be hurt and sin exists


If we are not of the flesh but "sons of God" there is no sin


It seems sin has much to do with believing we are a body rather than what God created - A spiritual being
Indeed the flesh cannot attain God
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If we are not bodies then nothing is happening

Is it ?
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please see my other post, homosexuality is mentioned in numerous passages in the Bible not just Leviticus. and as I far as I understand the bible the practice of homosexuality is a sin.

No it isn't.

Besides, YOU quoted Leviticus in support of your opinion. If Leviticus is not applicable in terms of determining whether or not a practice is a sin then don't use it.
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please see my other post, homosexuality is mentioned in numerous passages in the Bible not just Leviticus. and as I far as I understand the bible the practice of homosexuality is a sin.
The word homosexuality was not used until the late 19th century CE. This word was inserted into the Bible after that. One should be wary that the translators inserted their own prejudices into the Bible.

Since many lives are at stake this is an issue well worth going to the original hebrew scripture and translating for yourself. Perpetuating homosexuality as sin destroys lives.
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The word homosexuality was not used until the late 19th century CE. This word was inserted into the Bible after that. One should be wary that the translators inserted their own prejudices into the Bible.

Since many lives are at stake this is an issue well worth going to the original hebrew scripture and translating for yourself. Perpetuating homosexuality as sin destroys lives.

Now I am not an expert but I have my understanding as it is at this time.

and as i understand it the Bible is quite clear that homosexual acts are a Sin, now I dont read Hebrew or Greek and I dont think that I need to to as there are many accurate english translations of the Bible.

And I dont think that the hundreds if not thousands of Biblical Scholars, Pastors, Translators and ordinary Christians are all homophobic bigots. This is not a harsh judgment and this is not perpetuating a myth but it is a Biblical Truth.

Its nothing personal, I dont hate gay people in fact I used to sleep with men, but I believe that the Bible says it is a sin.
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I reallly like this post...I have said as much for years and people look at me like my head is on crooked.....

It is because their consciences have been destroyed. I know because when I was a Christian it happened to me. When you believe that no matter what you do you are deserving of Hell and that all acts are equally sinful you start feeling guilty for everything. Telling a lie gives as much guilt as murdering someone. You can no long tell when you should feel guilty and how much guilt you should feel. You also can never tell when you've done good things because the good things you've done are infinitely more evil than the goodness of God. If you compare your behavior to other people's you could tell if your a good person but if you compare your behavior to God's then you feel like an evil person. When you stop trying to be a good person and start trying to be a good god, you become both a bad person and a bad god. Your conscience stops being your moral compass you rely on God to tell you what is good.
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So

If we are flesh then we can be hurt and sin exists


If we are not of the flesh but "sons of God" there is no sin


It seems sin has much to do with believing we are a body rather than what God created - A spiritual being
Indeed the flesh cannot attain God
But the Spirit can

My soul has been hurt more and worse than my body ever could.
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Yes the practice of homosexuality is a sin

If you never read the Bible and/or it never existed would you be able to tell that it is a sin? How?
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