I am posting this here because my post below in response to Mooomooo cannot be posted there. So I am trying this to pass the road block.


Mate, you have a serious brain malfunction. Atheism has nothing to do with sexuality. How could you be so lacking in intelligence? I am a Non-Theist and Heterosexual. In fact, I know very few gay Atheists. Most Gays are religious. Many are priests. What is confusing you is that Atheists are very rational thinkers and believe that individuals are free to choose their own way whether I approve or not. Knowing that two blokes are getting married does no harm at all to my Heterosexual marriage of 40 years. I think that people who are bothered by Homosexuality are in fact suppressed homosexuals. Perhaps that is your problem. You are a poof in man's clothing.


I can't believe I am trying to explain this to an obviously stupid person. Atheism is lack of belief in Gods. Most Atheists I know personally are heterosexuals and do not really give a crap about what homosexuals do. Obviously they tempt you so you fear letting them do their thing lest it makes your gay urges come out. If you want an Atheist's perspective on Homosexuality I will give it to you.

Homosexual is NOT NORMAL. It is a biological malfunction (please EH no offence intended.) Heterosexuality is biologically normal, the product of 600 million years of evolution.

My view is that Homosexuality is a biological maladaptation. It is a misfiring of perhaps one or a few on-off synapses in complex circuits. It may be altered structure of a circuit module that is one of the 4 components of the Neurobehavioural Sexual Reproductive Programme.

Network I is the sexual self identity module. This is how we males identify ourselves as men. Likewise it is with women identifying as women. Malfunction there causes Transgenderism and possibly transvestitism. The classic case is “Barney is a woman trapped in a man’s body.”

Network II is the complex parieto-occipital identification and selection of a member of the opposite sex for a possible mate. If this module fails one has homosexuality (maladaptive) or bisexuality.

Network III is the complex and sequenced motor activity of copulation, which is a largely pre-programmed sequence of specific motor activities which I don’t think needs more explicit explanation.

Network IV the Autonomic phase of copulation and reproduction. Hypothalamic and other autonomic nuclei generate the "hormones", genital secretions, engorgement of male and female parts with blood, erection, and ejaculation. Failure here produces Bob Dole's ED (Erectile Dysfunction) and profits from sale of Viagra.

I think we could possibly agree on the fact that homosexual orientation is biological and neurobehavioural, i.e. brain generated. And we hopefully might even agree that it is not morally wrong but a neurobiological gender selection programme ERROR. Homosexual actions are definitely in biological functions non-physiological. Only a bigot (i.e.Homophobe) or religious fanatic thinks that it is SIN.


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OH...Amerigin...i very much enjoy reading your posts...let me fan you off...here a drink to cool down...dont be upset with dear mooomooo..he too is just one of our neighbors who expresses in his way and it can perhaps come across as way bizarre or what from your world would be considered stupid...but in this neighborhood we seem to be very good at not name calling and appreciating each of us for our individual self.....no one is stupid.....we each are products of our environment and up bringing...doing the best we can...and even when it appears we are not..we are...when one knows better and can do better...one does...but you know that......now continue on ...you seem to have much to teach...one never knows how many are reading and how many lives may be changed for the better...one can not avoid negative affects...but we can do our best...

Hi Amergin,

Thank you for the information. In your opinion, what do you think a homosexual should do? What do you think causes the program error? Can these circuits and networks be repaired?



Why is 10% of the populaton homosexual if heterosexuality is a product of 600 million years of evolution? Most homosexuals are perfectly normal in every way other than their sexual orientation, why just a program error in that area? You would think that after 600 million years 100 out of 1000 people wouldn't have a program error in the sexual orientation department. That seems to be enough time to get it right if there is a problem.

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Amerigan! Well we agree on one thing. Homosexuality isn't a sin. I do not believe homosexuality is a malfunction. It is a difference. I am as normal as you are...or somebody else. People are created the way they are and there are no mistakes. I am gay. You are not. No mistakes. Just the way we are. I personally resent the fact that people refer to pedophiles who abuse youth in a position of ministry (catholic priest) as gay. Some maybe...but gays are not pedophiles...they are people who love someone of the same sex...not children...and priest do not only molest males..they also have been known to molest females. Let's get it right...pedophiles and gays are not the same thing

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I didn't see where Amergin said gays were pedophiles. He said many gays are priests. I thought he was making the point that homosexuals can be very religious.

Not all priests are pedophiles. Not all priests are heterosexual and not all priests are homoexual.

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a person being born gay is no more a 'sin' than any other factor of who/what a person is- like whether you have brown eyes whereas someone else has blue.

No. Of course not. No more a "sin" than having curly hair.

The current laws on homosexuality were laid down - in my opinion - by people who were terrified of the admission of their own latent - unexpressed and repressed - homosexual feelings.

They were cast into Law a few thousand years later by other people who had the same intent, in my opinion.

It is also a well-known fact that homosexual people are promiscuous...

... projection is such a wonderful thing.

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How do you know this? What research have you performed and documented to make such a sweeping generalization? Is this based off your limited interaction with the homosexual population in your small country? Or perhaps based on what you've seen on television? If you are going to make statements like this, do us (and yourself) a favor by backing it up with some kind of factual evidence.


Hello, pot? This is kettle calling...

Again, what an intolerant generalization you've made. And you've managed to question Moomoo's sexuality in a ridiculously childish and passive aggressive way. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but I pity your myopic views of people...your posts come across as so sterile.


I know many homosexual atheists. "Tempting" heterosexuals is most certainly NOT on their list of things to do each day. Trust me, they have better things to do than try and infect you with their "maladaptation."

On a side note, Atheism is a large part of my own philosophy. Strange how I feel we have nothing in common morally, philosophically, or intellectually. Your black-and-white world of facts and falsehoods must be agonizing to live in. It is possible to be an Atheist but still appreciate the diversity that the theistic population has to offer. Over 90% of the world is religious in some way. If you can't make peace with that in your own head then, again, I pity you.


If you do not intend to offend, then you simply must learn to express yourself in a less hostile way. I'm not gay, but even I'm offended by your dumbing-down of the intricacies of human sexuality to a clinical diagnosis.


I'd like to invite all our beautiful homos here at IFF to join me in giving Amergin a big hug. I've never seen anyone in more need of one.

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Homosexuality a sin?

No. It's a genetic variation, not a statement of morality or belief.