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25th August 2008, 03:15 PM
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Why Believe?
Is it necessary to believe in a deity or deities? Is it necessary to believe there is/are no deity or deities? IOW, is it necessary to believe one way or another when it comes to that which we have so little to go on? Is there anything wrong with saying "I don't know"?
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25th August 2008, 03:33 PM
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Not at all "wrong"
"Right" and "wrong" are pretty meaningless categories; very likely what everyone (theist and non-theist alike) believes in this regard is erroneous , anyway. Sort of like an ant's conception of humanity would be.
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25th August 2008, 03:37 PM
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Of course there's nothing wrong with "I don't know."
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We do not fear the night, who have loved the stars so fondly.
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25th August 2008, 04:36 PM
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There is nothing wrong with I don't know..
but we all should be careful of telling someone else they don't know...because they might/probably think they do...and they just might!!
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25th August 2008, 05:57 PM
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In regards to the existence or total falsehood of gods, I think "I DON'T KNOW" is the most rational answer.
Kathy, I respect your right to belief what you believe. Then consider that I believe that nobody reallly "KNOWS". People who do believe in gods, do not believe because god is visible and demonstrable to all humans on Earth. Their belief is based entirely on subjective feelings. These include desire to believe, desire to believe in immortality, emotional feelings, mystical experiences, and visions/voices that all could be brain generated (as many have been proven to be by neuroscience.) "I DON'T KNOW" is the most honest answer in my opinion. I do not think that anybody knows. There are people who believe that they know, but that is no knowledge but belief, faith, or hope. There is nothing wrong with that. I would wish that those who say, "I KNOW GOD IS" would clarify it to be "I BELIEVE I KNOW GOD IS." My answer of "I DON'T KNOW" cannot be challenged unless one accuses me of lying for which there would be no motive. Amergin
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25th August 2008, 05:59 PM
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Very true Rev. Kathy. I claim I know....what? I don't know LOL All I know is I know. How do I know? Because I know : )
My knowing is not in terms of understanding or based on an experience...therefore this knowing can not be expressed in words. Words are a form of communication. I have come to understand (something of this world)that that which IS does not communicate nor has any need for communication. With other words....."there is no right or wrong...only that which serves you" (CWG/NDW)
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25th August 2008, 07:00 PM
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Thats right Viv!!
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26th August 2008, 01:14 AM
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I think people are at various stages of apprehension and comprehension so it would be difficult to generalize.. You ask individuals though and they will tell you different things accordingly. Based on the spiritual life and experience of people it varies.. - Art
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"it benefits us to be thoughtful, not of the glory of our minds, but rather, above all else, of the glory of God." - Johannes Kepler
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26th August 2008, 02:22 AM
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I've felt for many years that if you think it's God, it isn't. God would be beyond our thoughts and understanding. We can experience, but we can't put it into words or fully comprehend what we have experienced.
I think the point is to transcend thought.
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26th August 2008, 03:09 AM
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But just as the wind or your breathe coming out..you may not be able to see it or describe it really but you can know it is there....
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