I totally disagree! Her god wouldn't go about a war this way and therefore I can tell it isn't his work. The god of the Bible wouldn't try to change a country into a democracy or anything like that. The Bible god would order our troops to kill every man, woman, child (except the virgin girls),animal, and burn all their cities.

And Moses was wroth with the officers ... And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:1-18

And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain: Deuteronomy 2:33-34

And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2, 7:16

If thou shalt hear say ... Certain men ... saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known ... Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:12-15

When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it ... And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women ... shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. ... But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them ... as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. Deuteronomy 20:10-17

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Psalm 2:8-9

BIBLE GOD OBVIOUSLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WAR!

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I don't think that that particular God feels at all strongly about Iraq, let's face it, if He did, he is quite capable of destroying it - and the population - by Himself.


He is no stranger to mass-murder.


Peace, Love, & Light

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What I have found in the little reading of the Bible I have done is that Jesus didnt speak of the same GOD that much of the Bible spoke of.

He spoke of a loving God whereas much of the rest of the Bible speaks of a God of wrath etc

There is a different dynamic

Its like there are two Gods spoken of

Perhaps one is the one we made up and one is the real God ?


It also occurs to me that Jesus brought a new Law - That of Love.
Many assume the Word of God is the Bible but I see it that Jesus is the Word of God - after all God has no need of Words and so Jesus was speaking the Word
It also occurs to me that in the begining was God and the Word and jesus represents the Son for us all - again that links with Jesus being the Word and not the Bible.

It takes quite some doing to question the Bible but perhaps one should ask if God is Love - how could anything that brings fear to any of us be real ?

If God isnt Love but instead is much like many parts of the Bible seems to lead to - Wouldnt it be best to keep on hiding ?

I mean would we want a God of war and human tendancies - taking sides and reaping vengeance

I wouldnt

There are - in my opinion - two very different gods in the Bible, the one to whom Jesus refers as "my Heavenly Father" - who is loving, all-forgiving, and with whom Jesus is trying to unite us.

This is - it seems to me - a very different god to the one of the Old Testament, who gives the impression of being a spiteful, vengeful, mass-murderer who is petty-minded in the extreme.

That particular one is probably based on a Volcano god, there are references to things such as burning rocks, a flaming cloud-clad mountain, thunderings, earth-shakings, and other such occurrences.

It seems to me quite possible that that one is a projection of the Ego, which has been fastened onto an ancient Volcano God.
I apologise for not being able to give the Biblical verses which refer to these events - in my HD problems i have lost much of my research.

I do not think that Jesus anywhere in the New Testament does actually refer to his Father as Jehovah or Yahweh, it is -- as far as i am aware -- invariably as "my Heavenly Father" or similar words.

If that one really is the true god, i welcome my eternity in Hades, it will be a holiday in comparison.



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Mudflats

Has anyone seen this blog?

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Since God is not able or willing to verify what spokespeople say they heard from God, then anyone can say anything.
I could say that it is God's will for you all to send me cash in large bills and how would you verify that.
It is a great motivator for the simple minded which seem to be everywhere.
Has anyone seen "Idiocracy". it was a fairly stupid movie, but good in many ways.

LOVED Idiocracy!

scarily possibly accurate, but definitely a foreshadowing of what could become should we all decide to water plants with powerade or whatever it was and decide to accept common misspellings of awkward words.

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Let me just mention that, according to halacha (Jewish Law), only a prophet can call for a war of offense, but since we're well past the prophetic age (assuming there actually were some), ...

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The christians believe that they are in a new dispensation and now anyone can prophesy, so they think.
Not accepting the Tenach by calling it the Old Testament due to their misinterpretation of the word new which is really renew in Jeremiah, gives them this idea.

I think another God vs God showdown like the Mt Carmel incident is in order.
Can my God beat your God.
Stay tuned.
When will people get tired of killing for God.
Let God do it already.
If the instigator is really God then He can waste them Himself and doesn't need any holy hitmen to do the job for Him/Her/It.
Doesn't He have "the angel of death" on staff.
With ringers like that why hire amateurs.
Look at the mess us people make of such jobs anyways.

"I think another God vs God showdown like the Mt Carmel incident is in order."

Mount Carmel is an inter-faith mountain..there's a cave of Elijah for the Christians at the Carmelite monastery, a Jewish cave of Elijah and a Muslim cave of Elijah.. I think Elijah would maybe stay in the Muslim cave on Friday...the Jewish cave on Saturday and the Christian cave on Sunday...

Mount Carmel though was a holy place even during the time of Pythagoras who visited there on his way to Egypt..

And don't forget the Shrine of the Bab and the Terraces overlooking the Bay of Haifa...

I like the Bible verse:

Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

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